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John Devine we need the likes of him to be given the job to oversee the Emerging Talent Program as he has a brilliant perspective on how underage soccer need t change and is doing it in SDSL.
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BabbsBalls
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Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 2:53pm |
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12's is way too old . So is 11's. Should be quality coaching available to 6,7,8 year olds .
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Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 1:50pm |
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It's going to go to U11 this year what I'm hearing with regional introduction early next year.
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Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 1:43pm |
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Is u12 not even a bit late to be starting a programme like the ETP. Is that not a bit too late to start teaching a kid technical skills?
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Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 12:54pm |
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People are looking for instant players to play for ROI doesn't matter who or how they''re produced and from where and then the issue is will they play for us and why not. Most only pick us because we're the next best option for international football.
We should be more concern about how we develop players and what the best structures are to achieve this. Then we won't have to waste our time on will he or won't he play for ROI scenarios as we have done for years, will have our own players to pick from hopefully.
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Posted: 22 Aug 2014 at 10:46am |
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50 odd new posts and outcry in the Jack Grealish thread while this thread goes on to page 2 .
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The ETP starts at U12 with a lead into the Kennedy Cuo but the problem is around the country the local schoolboys league control it and some don't operate it properly. In some cases the coaching is of a very low standard which is of no use to the kids and also a waste of money provide by the FAI to the leagues to run an ETP program. The FAI coaches only really get involved when the players have finished the KC and move to FAI regional centres which is probably too late and 3 years of been involved with a county squad is wasted because of inadequate coaching, there is not enough overseeing done by the FAI on the ETP program.
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I disagree.
The FAI are the governing body no matter what way you look at it. If it doesnt suit them they distance themselves as one i.e the affiliates run the show when it comes to implementing positive change but the fact remains they are .... I am a gas fitter by trade and the governing body for gas (the RGI) recently brought in legislation that you must complete a refresher course every 3 years . The course costs €375 , some of which can be recouped back as RGI certificates of works (cheers lads , bargain). My dad has been a gas fitter for nearly 40 years and has to do this as their are no exemptions. Yes there was a bit of commotion over it (plumbers march to the Dail a few weeks back) but the end result ? Get in line. If you dont do the course you will be scratched off the list of Registered Gas Installers and if you perform any gasworks and are not registered as an RGI you will face jail time. That was the end of that.. Point being , that is how governing bodies can act . They are entitled to do anything they want really with the above example impacting peoples earnings. The FAI won't stand up and make the tough decisionsand feed us wishy washy sh*te about it not being their jurisdication. . . and this in an amateur environment. Amateur isnt the word. They wont get another cent off me after this season anyway the pack of muppets. |
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The nature of our island and the competition from other sports will dictate local level imo, A National approach ie The FAI will never influence that, its all about local coaches who put in the work week in and out and nurture and promote that special talent, watching the Hibernia over the w/e with my son, his mates and a few football parents, out of 8 teams, we picked out only 2 players that were outstanding, Number 9 for Sunderland and the Celtic Goalkeeper, but it struck me that most teams are being over coached!
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Posted: 17 Aug 2014 at 10:16pm |
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....also , think of the money we have paid Wim Koevermans and Ruud Doktor. For what ? The FAI cry poverty all the time yet spend money stupidly far too often. .
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Posted: 17 Aug 2014 at 10:09pm |
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Of course there are people doing good work here Brianie . Plenty of people are but it's at local level and not on a national one . No direction whatsoever .
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Posted: 17 Aug 2014 at 10:07pm |
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Babbs Have a look at what John Devine is doing with the kids in the SDFL, Has to be positive!
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Posted: 17 Aug 2014 at 10:05pm |
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Training of a high quality should be available to kids from 6 years up . Our first national set up is what ? 15's ? Sure they have bad habits embedded in them by then !!
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Posted: 17 Aug 2014 at 10:03pm |
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It's not so much the results in terms of current player quality , it's the time being put in . The elite players in NI will spend up to 5 evenings per week in academy's being trained by the likes of Coerver . Top quality training basically . Also , some regional development centres open all day Saturday . Kids come and get educated , parents tuck into free refreshments . Big difference between our emerging talent programme where it's 7-8:30 every Monday and f**k all else .. Again , the IFA have a plan in place and we don't . They will overtake us in the near future make no mistake about it . |
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You are right there, did that course, after watching the only irish club in the Hibernia over the past few days, ie Joeys, in particular this morning v Celtic, started off playing the ball from the back and passing it out but after a goal down reverted to route 1 and struggled with it!
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Posted: 17 Aug 2014 at 9:58pm |
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Give them time.
Thats the problem here - the want for instant results. No German ten year plans !!!! I said the younger kids. Anyway the 15s will improve, takes time with the older lads. |
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Posted: 17 Aug 2014 at 9:57pm |
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Yep . Dollar comes before genuine quality in terms of player development . No surprises there . . Spot on about the FAI coaches . They are a sound bunch of lads but the likes of KS1 / KS 2 and the workshops are token courses . Learn nothing on them . Massive gulf in class between them and the Coerver/Ajax courses.
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That IFA U15 squad over the w/e were not impressive at all!!!!!
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