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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Nastasic was very good last night, good composure for a 19 yr old
Dzeko was abysmal I thought, first touch sh*te and poor link up play. Strange that he wasn't taken off, should b used as a supersub

Yaya, Aguero, Balotelli and Kompany not having great seasons

Not d monster he was last season
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Agree with a lot of what Hansen says here in his article. Only thing i dont like is his constant obsession of Balotelli, hardly out of the ordinary what he did on Saturday when subbed. Would be more worried if he didnt care about being taken off -
 

Manchester City will need the mother of all comebacks to revive their Champions League ambitions this season -- a miracle to eclipse Chelsea's efforts last term.

Frankly, I don't think they're playing well enough to achieve it. If their disappointing first season in Europe's premier competition was understandable as they readjusted to a superior tournament, there is no excuse for the poor showing this time.

Yes, they have had a tough draw for two consecutive years -- how they would have craved the 'gimme' of Manchester United's group -- but City have only themselves to blame for not stepping up a level having won the Premier League.

None of their summer signings has had any impact, the system is changing from one week to the next, to the point where the players look confused, and here we are again talking about Mario Balotelli spitting his dummy out after being substituted at West Ham. How can these issues have failed to be addressed last summer?

Losing to Real Madrid in the final stages at the Bernabeu was avoidable; they should have been hammered at home by Borussia Dortmund despite sneaking a draw, and the loss to Ajax was nothing short of a capitulation.

For a side still unbeaten in the Premier League, it is frightening how short of quality City have looked in Europe, bereft of confidence and the necessary expertise to pose a threat to the elite sides. It should not be like this at the Etihad Stadium.

The time for learning should be long gone and the place should still be buzzing after the first title in 48 years, the winning goal by Sergio Aguero the platform for a generation of dominance at home and abroad.

I understand the argument about such circumstances not developing overnight, but there is no reason for City not to be more competitive in Europe.

They already had the spine of their team in place and the resources to improve it, so to have wasted money on players who don't make the first choice line-up is inexplicable. Last summer already has the look of a missed opportunity, and that failure in the transfer market has been exposed much more in Europe.

Instead of riding the crest of a wave of positivity, everything you hear coming out of the club is negative, and it begins with the manager.

The next time Mancini (below) hears a rival club are interested in his services, he should pause for thought and ask himself if he will ever have a better job than he has right now. I'd suggest there is no football job in the world more attractive than being manager of Manchester City.

The suggestion he spent the summer talking to any clubs -- the idea of leaving City for Monaco is bewildering -- sends a horrific message to players and supporters.

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It's extremely difficult for a manager to make his players believe in him and his methods if they see him as someone who was willing to walk away a few weeks after their greatest triumph.

In the four or five weeks after Aguero's winner against QPR, Mancini should have been strategically planning how to add players of the calibre of Vincent Kompany and Yaya Toure. Instead, if the reports are to be believed, he was talking to another club.

There are still doubts about Mancini, particularly in Europe. His former club, Inter Milan, only won the Champions League after he left, despite his domestic dominance in Italy.

If he left City tomorrow, he would undoubtedly do so as big a legend as he was at the San Siro, the man who brought a championship drought to an end. Regardless of the circumstances, he deserves credit for that and his place in City folklore is secure.

But whether he has signed a long-term contract or not, Mancini must prove he has the ability to make progress quickly in Europe or I suspect City will start looking for someone they believe can. (© Daily Telegraph, London)

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Not a bad article but Hansen is wrong when he said mancini was talking to monaco after they won the title. Therefore his assertion that mancini should have been planning for the upcoming season is also incorrect - he was. Winning the title convinced him to stay.
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Good point actually, i thought the Monaco links were only after Arsenal beat City at Easter and they were 8 points behind and Mancini looked destined for the sack

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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Good point actually, i thought the Monaco links were only after Arsenal beat City at Easter and they were 8 points behind and Mancini looked destined for the sack



Exactly. Mancini informed Monaco immediately after City won the title that he was not taking the job. Poor journalism from Hansen and his editor.

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Plus Hansen hasn't taken into account the politics at board level which led to the tightening of purse strings.

If Mancini had his way there would have been a few more big money signings.
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Aguero and Tevez need to start up front everygame. Balotelli needs to be pushed out

Toure looks like he is carrying an injury the past 6 weeks
 
 
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Originally posted by erimus erimus wrote:

Aguero and Tevez need to start up front everygame. Balotelli needs to be pushed out

Toure looks like he is carrying an injury the past 6 weeks
 
 
 
Ive always noticed Toure walks as if he's limping.
 
Balotelli has been playing well enough, link up play etc good just not scoring the goals. He was brilliant at West Brom but was taken off as he was close to being sent off.
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Originally posted by erimus erimus wrote:

Aguero and Tevez need to start up front everygame. Balotelli needs to be pushed out


Toure looks like he is carrying an injury the past 6 weeks

 

 


Fully agree. Aguero and Tevez are an incredible partnership with supersub Dzeko.

As much as I like Balotelli he is not a team player and doesn't score enough (ok he is a sub a lot of the time).

Something not quite right either in the squad. A lot of players like company not on form. However it still shows the quality of the team when they are just a couple of points off united.

They seem to be like United of old....I.e. start off the season sluggish and come into form in the second half of the season. I can see Chelsea tailing off and this being a two horse race again.

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last 4-5 games, he is barely able to move after 60 minutes.
Would not be surprised if he goes for surgery around ANC time
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its not helping ya ya that we'r playing a different system each game.....last year it was grand,we had two up top and if one wasnt playing well they came off and we let ya ya burst from the midfield.against west ham it looked as if he didnt know what to do...he never really got forward and now seems to be lying just in front of the the center halfs taken the ball and playing side way passes,a waste.true...tevez and aguero should be starting up top all the time together,dzeko and mario have had there chance in starting and havent taken it,it wouldnt bother me at all to see either go,ok maybe hang onto dzeko but mario has really done little for the club/team..we have a good couple of young strikers coming up and they should be given a chance.
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Roberto Mancini believes Virgin Mary may have answered his prayers as title swung Blues’ way on religious feast day

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November 15, 2012

Roberto Mancini claims that when Sergio Aguero miraculously won the Premier League title, he got an assist from the Virgin Mary!

The City boss has revealed how he feels a pilgrimage he took to a holy shrine in Bosnia-Herzegovina at the height of the title run-in may have turned the tide back in the Blues’ favour.

And his belief is backed up by a strange set of circumstances which followed from his trip to the town of Medjugorje in March, just as United had seized the initiative at the top of the table.

City had started to wobble in the race and lost top spot just as Mancini, along with wife Federica and daughter Camilla, took a two-day break and flew to the Balkans.

At the time of his visit, devout Catholic Mancini denied that he was seeking divine help for the Blues, saying: “I think The Lord and Our Lady have more important things to worry about than, say, my career.”

But one purpose for the visit was to seek mental and spiritual renewal, and that worked, said Mancini at the time: “Millions of people come here, and I will come again. I believe more and more that Medjugorje will change the world for the better. When a man comes here, he returns different, better.”

During his brief visit, Mancini visited Vicka Ivankovic-Mijatovic, one of six people in the town who claimed to have begun having visitations from the Virgin Mary in 1981.

He revealed that he had a vivid dream about meeting Vicka ahead of his trip, saying: “I was in a room with some people, and the visionary Vicka was with me.

“At a certain point she smiled at me, looking straight into my eyes, so that I tried to see if she was looking at someone else. But, suddenly, she moved towards me so that, at that point, I had no doubts anymore.

“She came towards me, she got near, once again she was looking straight into my eyes. Then she kissed me on my forehead. I explicitly felt the sensation of a physical contact with someone I had never met in my life before.”

Vicka prayed over Mancini, who was an altar boy as a child in Italy, when he went to her home as part of the visit.

While Mancini returned refreshed from his pilgrimage, his team’s fortunes continued to slump. The title slipped further away from City in the next fortnight, and by Easter Sunday they were eight points behind with six games to play.

Then came the turning point. After giving themselves some hope by beating West Brom on the same night as United lost at Wigan, the Blues then received a huge boost when the Reds lost a 4-2 lead against Everton at Old Trafford.

Two of the Everton goals that day were scored by Nikica Jelavic – who was born just five miles from Medjugorje, in the Croatian town of Caplijna.

The story, relayed in a new book by Italian author Paolo Brosio, goes that Mancini bumped into Jelavic in a restaurant two days before Everton’s game at Old Trafford.

He left him with the salutation: “Take care, you have to score goals.”

Jelavic duly delivered, opening the scoring at United and then grabbing the vital third before Marouane Fellaini’s scored a dramatic late equaliser which put the title back in City’s own hands again.

The Blues continued to win, including the derby victory at the Etihad Stadium, and set up that incredible final day of the season, May 13.

Mancini claims that day was also significant, as it is the Feast Day of Our Lady of Fatima, which celebrates one of the more famous alleged visitations by the Virgin Mary, to three children in Portugal.

City appeared to be out of it until substitute Edin Dzeko – headed in an equaliser, before Aguero grabbed that remarkable late winner to snatch the trophy from the grasp of the Reds.

Mancini says in the bookhe has pondered whether the Virgin Mary may have answered his prayers many times, and he feels City may have got divine help.

Asked whether heaven had intervened, Mancini replied: “I thought and still think so.  When I think about it, I wonder how it was possible, because I think that in Heaven they have other problems to solve.

“However, when I pray, I understand that something impossible became possible on that day – May 13, the Feast Day of Fatima, the anniversary of the apparitions in Portugal.”

City have been linked with a dramatic £40m move for Luis Suarez in the January transfer window.

Blues boss Mancini is keen to bolster his squad and is thought to be mulling over a bid for the Liverpool and Uruguayan striker.

The Italian is also tracking Atletico Madrid star Radamel Falcao who has  a £48m release clause in his contract.

But the Colombian superstar is understood to prefer a potential move to Chelsea.

As a result, Mancini may be tempted to switch his sights to Suarez, though whether Liverpool would be open to a deal is highly debatable.

Suarez only signed a new fourcontract in August but City could easily improve on his £120,000 a week salary.



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Hart really does make some terrible blunders
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I wonder when the skysports love in with joe hart will stop
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Dont remember Given making so many blunders in his time at City
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Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

Hart really does make some terrible blunders
Nowhere near world class IMO
 
He's not in the top 3-5 keepers in the world like the English media would have you believe.
 
Well over-hyped, does make several mistakes that are usually glossed over by pundits, all keepers make mistakes though, Hart is still performing when it matters - Dortmund and Swansea at home recently for example would have been defeats but for him.
 
 
 
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you for real baggio!!!!!!!!!!!!!over hyped!!!!!!!i can think of 4/5 games off the top of my head from last season where he's pulled off saves to get us a point or to win us games let alone get onto the topic of how he's keeping us in games this year.he was poor for the goal v spurs but it was point blank...as a city fan i couldnt give two f**ks how he plays for england because for city he's been a rock and a far better keeper than given in my opinion....to say he's not in the top 5 keepers in the world is silly also,the bloke is 25 and he hasnt even peaked,already a city legend!!!
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