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It seems a lot of media channels are running with the "well its no fairytale story" agenda, about City winning through to the CL final last night. 

1 - Who said it was?
2 - Who cares if it isn't?
3 - Were many winners of the CL in the last 20 years fairytale stories? Did their fans not celebrate or get excited about getting to the final because of this?

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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

It seems a lot of media channels are running with the "well its no fairytale story" agenda, about City winning through to the CL final last night. 

1 - Who said it was?
2 - Who cares if it isn't?
3 - Were many winners of the CL in the last 20 years fairytale stories? Did their fans not celebrate or get excited about getting to the final because of this?


The way it was being portrayed last night very much had the fairytale story vibe to it - Both online and mainstream reporting. 
The reason people object to that is that the richest club in the world being back by a nation who is using the club as a sportswashing vehicle is definitely not a fairytale story. 
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

It seems a lot of media channels are running with the "well its no fairytale story" agenda, about City winning through to the CL final last night. 

1 - Who said it was?
2 - Who cares if it isn't?
3 - Were many winners of the CL in the last 20 years fairytale stories? Did their fans not celebrate or get excited about getting to the final because of this?


The way it was being portrayed last night very much had the fairytale story vibe to it - Both online and mainstream reporting. 
The reason people object to that is that the richest club in the world being back by a nation who is using the club as a sportswashing vehicle is definitely not a fairytale story. 
  
Did it?
City have been either favourites or in the top 3 of the betting to win the CL every season for the last 3 or 4. Whoever is saying they're underdogs is clearly deluded. I haven't heard anyone describe it as such. 


I suppose they have just easily beaten a team who's attack cost more than City's whole starting XI come to think of it LOL

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A Man City - Chelsea final would be interesting.
 
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Last year's final saw two paupers play each other......
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

It seems a lot of media channels are running with the "well its no fairytale story" agenda, about City winning through to the CL final last night. 

1 - Who said it was?
2 - Who cares if it isn't?
3 - Were many winners of the CL in the last 20 years fairytale stories? Did their fans not celebrate or get excited about getting to the final because of this?


The way it was being portrayed last night very much had the fairytale story vibe to it - Both online and mainstream reporting. 
The reason people object to that is that the richest club in the world being back by a nation who is using the club as a sportswashing vehicle is definitely not a fairytale story. 
  
Did it?
City have been either favourites or in the top 3 of the betting to win the CL every season for the last 3 or 4. Whoever is saying they're underdogs is clearly deluded. I haven't heard anyone describe it as such. 


I suppose they have just easily beaten a team who's attack cost more than City's whole starting XI come to think of it LOL

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Its hard to believe it but PSG had 56% possession in that game last night had 14 shots and NONE on target its fcuking hard to believe that, amazing, never had a shot on target in 90mins plus of footballDisapprove
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Originally posted by Neil Armstrong Neil Armstrong wrote:

Its hard to believe it but PSG had 56% possession in that game last night had 14 shots and NONE on target its fcuking hard to believe that, amazing, never had a shot on target in 90mins plus of footballDisapprove

The defenders must have blocked 3/4 shots. 
They did hit the post but don’t remember the keeper making any saves. 

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Neil Armstrong Neil Armstrong wrote:

Its hard to believe it but PSG had 56% possession in that game last night had 14 shots and NONE on target its fcuking hard to believe that, amazing, never had a shot on target in 90mins plus of footballDisapprove

The defenders must have blocked 3/4 shots. 
They did hit the post but don’t remember the keeper making any saves. 

PSG also hit the woodwork with the gk beaten (as did Foden for City).

But neither counts as "on target" (obv), even though they often mean much more than eg a tame "shot on target" which the gk could have saved with his eyes shut.

EDIT: Just noticed ZK's reference to PSG hitting the post.


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Originally posted by Neil Armstrong Neil Armstrong wrote:

Its hard to believe it but PSG had 56% possession in that game last night had 14 shots and NONE on target its fcuking hard to believe that, amazing, never had a shot on target in 90mins plus of footballDisapprove

They didn't have a shot on target since the 28th minute of the first leg

There were quite a few blocks from defenders last night, Dias in particular. 

The possession stats don't surprise me, i thought first half in particular City weren't great and didn't keep the ball well enough, whether that was due to the conditions or the fact that Rodri wasn't on i'm not sure but Gundogan wasn't his usual self and Fernandinho was ok just first half, he improved second half
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thought ferindino was outstanding all night....rodri left out and ferindino playing shows who pep trusts the most in the big games,I fully expect ferindino to start the final.hard to pick a poor performance from last night.the back four were unbelievable,Dias the pick of the bunch and city totally controlled the game.

Some of the football city played last night was sensational...probably city’s best all season.the players have been brilliant but pep has played a masterclass in squad rotation and motivation.

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There's no doubt PG has settled on a system that suits him and suits his players, such that he is building what looks to be the best team in Europe right now.

But it would be a mistake to believe that football has now reached peak evolution i.e. that his is the only way to play.

I mean, what if PG had a 26 or 27 y.o. Ronaldo, Lewandowski or Zlatan on the books? Or even a Sergio Aguero at that age? Would he still not try to find a system to fit them in?

Remember, it's still only a season and a bit since Liverpool were producing a similar standard of football with Mo Salah playing as a "real" No.9 - Bayern, too, with Lewandowski.

And then there's this:
https://www.90min.com/posts/the-night-jose-mourinho-parked-bus-stunned-the-camp-nou-inter-barcelona


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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Some great points made here from Carragher


Not bad for someone who was morphing into Mourinho 6 months ago.
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Some great points made here from Carragher


Not bad for someone who was morphing into Mourinho 6 months ago.

I was wrong. 

Just like you have been countless times on here. 
Thiago best midfielder in the world, Kante in the top 5 over rated players in the world, Kyle Walker pathetic at football, EPL definitely not the best league in the world, I could go on


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All correct calls. 
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