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Originally posted by IrishPride IrishPride wrote:

I think all opposition players should be booed. Would create a good intimidating atmosphere


no problem booing opposing players be it star players or dirty players.  However booing them because they play for a rival British club to the one you support is sick.
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Bit of a rangers love in this, a taxi driver (rangers fan) won't even speak to you when they hear the Irish accent, walk into the wrong pub with an Irish accent, you won't be walking out! I'm sure there are loads of rangers fans here, how many have been to a game and if they did how many would go back!
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

I have no time for booing players , i really don't like it.

But seeing as we're all Irish fans is booing Paul Green and Paul McShane not worse than the odd "Celtic fan" booing an ex or current Rangers player if there happens to be one on the opposing team?

 
never heard either being booed.
 
it was never an "odd" celtic fan booing rangers players. in fact a load of northen celtic fans turned up to the match last year against the north with the sole purpose of abusing the norths players. was unfortunately right beside them

Green was booed (not deafening boo's now) where i was sitting for the Czech game.

But there was only one Rangers players on the pitch when Ireland played the North , this was not an Old Firm game you see those "Celtic fans" were at the game as Ireland fans , so in fact it was Irish fans booing Northern Irish players. 



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[QUOTE=Roberto Baggio]Spare me the anti Irish rubbish.  Rangers fans are anti Celtic (I wonder why Big smile) not anti Irish.
You've obviously never heard the famine song!!
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Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

[QUOTE=Roberto Baggio]Spare me the anti Irish rubbish.  Rangers fans are anti Celtic (I wonder why Big smile) not anti Irish.
You've obviously never heard the famine song!!

I posted up a comment in the previous page highlighting that , but did he reply no. When you have an answer the majority won't write back because they have no answer to give back , which shows up their lack of knowledge on the subject.

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I don't see why people are making a big deal out of booing a player. It's not a big deal.
I see Suarez gets booed at every ground he plays at, and I am sure other players gets booed as well. (Awaits chorus of Suarez is a ****s etc..)

It's not behavior I engage in but I've no issues with it.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

I don't see why people are making a big deal out of booing a player. It's not a big deal.
I see Suarez gets booed at every ground he plays at, and I am sure other players gets booed as well. (Awaits chorus of Suarez is a ****s etc..)

It's not behavior I engage in but I've no issues with it.

Its just to have a go at Celtic really , you pull any of the Celtic haters up or prove them wrong and they don't reply very sad really.


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Originally posted by Spudgunn1980 Spudgunn1980 wrote:

Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

[QUOTE=Roberto Baggio]Spare me the anti Irish rubbish.  Rangers fans are anti Celtic (I wonder why Big smile) not anti Irish.
You've obviously never heard the famine song!!

I posted up a comment in the previous page highlighting that , but did he reply no. When you have an answer the majority won't write back because they have no answer to give back , which shows up their lack of knowledge on the subject.

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Its so sad that their dislike of a club seems to blur the facts in their heads. 
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Not winding up here, and i know this thread was started as one of those completely unfunny and at this stage played out ybig 'jokes', however, are these people from Galway, Dublin or wherever that you know who support the Huns serious fans or just doing it for a bit of attention seeking and winding up?
 
do they support ireland as well?
What do they think of every Irish international that plays at Ibrox being roundly booed for example?


Brian Kerr is a Rangers fan as was his father and grandfather.  3 recent Irish Internationals Ritchie Sadlier, Alan Maybury and a 3rd who hasn't gone public are/were Rangers fans. 

I know quite a few Rangers fans in the Republic and they are as serious as your average Man United or Liverpool fan eg 1 home game every couple of seasons and watch the games on tv. 

I know of one of our regular aways fans under Jack who also followed Rangers everywhere at the time incl numerous european aways.  Haven't seen him at any of our games recently.

I know of a family of season ticket holders in the Aviva who went to Ibrox at least once this season and do follow Rangers - father went a bit more often before he had the kids.  

A former colleague goes to most home games and went to Japan(his only aways afaik although he could well be in Poland) and went to quite a few Rangers games.

Just because Rangers fans don't feel the need to show their British club allegiances at RoI games doesn't mean they don't exist. 

Spare me the anti Irish rubbish.  Rangers fans are anti Celtic (I wonder why Big smile) not anti Irish.

You need to brush up on your knowledge Embarrassed I can stay here all day and post up fact after fact , link after link if you want.




Do you not remember Rangers no signing Catholics policy? Now don't tell me that wasn't just a cover up to not sign Irish players , a club who has openly adopted "No Surrender" , Rangers in total haven't had more than 8 Irish players on their books in their history etc etc yet another clueless post from a person who knows f**k all about Scottish football!

Plenty of Rangers fans kicked up over the signing of Alan Smith "the fenian" so iv'e seen him called.




It is almost certain Rangers did operate a "no catholics" policy from at least the 1950's to the 1980's.  I fail to see how that could be anti Irish as opposed to anti Spanish.  They have since signed a number of RC players and tried to sign a number of Irish players.

The Billy Boys is certainly sectarian and there is no doubt there is a sectarian minority to the Rangers support.  Likewise the Celtic support has a sectarian minority

Rangers have an active supporters club in Dublin.

I've heard the anti Irish jibe thrown at a number of British clubs funnily enough incl Sunderland.  There was certainly an anti Irish element in Britain in the past and some of it would have manifested itself in football.    However an element of the Celtic support trying to portray Rangers as anti Irish doesn't hold water in my book and is merely trying to extend what is a club rivalry and try and obtain some moral high ground.

 
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Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Not winding up here, and i know this thread was started as one of those completely unfunny and at this stage played out ybig 'jokes', however, are these people from Galway, Dublin or wherever that you know who support the Huns serious fans or just doing it for a bit of attention seeking and winding up?
 
do they support ireland as well?
What do they think of every Irish international that plays at Ibrox being roundly booed for example?


Brian Kerr is a Rangers fan as was his father and grandfather.  3 recent Irish Internationals Ritchie Sadlier, Alan Maybury and a 3rd who hasn't gone public are/were Rangers fans. 

I know quite a few Rangers fans in the Republic and they are as serious as your average Man United or Liverpool fan eg 1 home game every couple of seasons and watch the games on tv. 

I know of one of our regular aways fans under Jack who also followed Rangers everywhere at the time incl numerous european aways.  Haven't seen him at any of our games recently.

I know of a family of season ticket holders in the Aviva who went to Ibrox at least once this season and do follow Rangers - father went a bit more often before he had the kids.  

A former colleague goes to most home games and went to Japan(his only aways afaik although he could well be in Poland) and went to quite a few Rangers games.

Just because Rangers fans don't feel the need to show their British club allegiances at RoI games doesn't mean they don't exist. 

Spare me the anti Irish rubbish.  Rangers fans are anti Celtic (I wonder why Big smile) not anti Irish.

You need to brush up on your knowledge Embarrassed I can stay here all day and post up fact after fact , link after link if you want.




Do you not remember Rangers no signing Catholics policy? Now don't tell me that wasn't just a cover up to not sign Irish players , a club who has openly adopted "No Surrender" , Rangers in total haven't had more than 8 Irish players on their books in their history etc etc yet another clueless post from a person who knows f**k all about Scottish football!

Plenty of Rangers fans kicked up over the signing of Alan Smith "the fenian" so iv'e seen him called.




It is almost certain Rangers did operate a "no catholics" policy from at least the 1950's to the 1980's.  I fail to see how that could be anti Irish as opposed to anti Spanish.  They have since signed a number of RC players and tried to sign a number of Irish players.

The Billy Boys is certainly sectarian and there is no doubt there is a sectarian minority to the Rangers support.  Likewise the Celtic support has a sectarian minority

Rangers have an active supporters club in Dublin.

I've heard the anti Irish jibe thrown at a number of British clubs funnily enough incl Sunderland.  There was certainly an anti Irish element in Britain in the past and some of it would have manifested itself in football.    However an element of the Celtic support trying to portray Rangers as anti Irish doesn't hold water in my book and is merely trying to extend what is a club rivalry and try and obtain some moral high ground.

 

It is certain.

How many foreign players were moving to British clubs in the 80s ffs , thats a petty reason.

There was a limited number of foreign players allowed play per team also so to compare Irish and Spanish players at that time is nonsense.

LOL ?????? Who have Rangers genuinely tried to sign thats Irish , no media bullsh*t i want hard evidence as too what Irish players Rangers made bids for in the past 20 years. Bearing in mind you said "a number" of players.

A minority are you taking the piss? Confused

Rangers were always anti-Irish and anti-Catholic , funny how their biggest rivals were pro-Irish and supported by a majority Catholic fan base but were also open to Protestant players , fans and managers to join the club.

Rangers havent had 10 Irish players in their history to have togged out for them in a 130 years , now don't start comparing the likes of Doncaster or West Brom (for example) with Rangers when it comes to not signing Irish players because i'm not buying it. 


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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Jbyrne Jbyrne wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

I have no time for booing players , i really don't like it.

But seeing as we're all Irish fans is booing Paul Green and Paul McShane not worse than the odd "Celtic fan" booing an ex or current Rangers player if there happens to be one on the opposing team?

 
never heard either being booed.
 
it was never an "odd" celtic fan booing rangers players. in fact a load of northen celtic fans turned up to the match last year against the north with the sole purpose of abusing the norths players. was unfortunately right beside them

Green was booed (not deafening boo's now) where i was sitting for the Czech game.

But there was only one Rangers players on the pitch when Ireland played the North , this was not an Old Firm game you see those "Celtic fans" were at the game as Ireland fans , so in fact it was Irish fans booing Northern Irish players. 

 
funny they only came to the match against the north. i sit in an area with season ticket holders and never seen these lads before or since. also, what has the celtic jerseys and flags they had got to do with supporting Ireland??
 
 
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

I don't see why people are making a big deal out of booing a player. It's not a big deal.
I see Suarez gets booed at every ground he plays at, and I am sure other players gets booed as well. (Awaits chorus of Suarez is a ****s etc..)

It's not behavior I engage in but I've no issues with it.

Its just to have a go at Celtic really , you pull any of the Celtic haters up or prove them wrong and they don't reply very sad really.
 
Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

What do they think of every Irish international that plays at Ibrox being roundly booed for example?
 
this is the post that brought us on to booing players. cant have it both ways


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Originally posted by Jbyrne Jbyrne wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Jbyrne Jbyrne wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

I have no time for booing players , i really don't like it.

But seeing as we're all Irish fans is booing Paul Green and Paul McShane not worse than the odd "Celtic fan" booing an ex or current Rangers player if there happens to be one on the opposing team?

 
never heard either being booed.
 
it was never an "odd" celtic fan booing rangers players. in fact a load of northen celtic fans turned up to the match last year against the north with the sole purpose of abusing the norths players. was unfortunately right beside them

Green was booed (not deafening boo's now) where i was sitting for the Czech game.

But there was only one Rangers players on the pitch when Ireland played the North , this was not an Old Firm game you see those "Celtic fans" were at the game as Ireland fans , so in fact it was Irish fans booing Northern Irish players. 

 
funny they only came to the match against the north. i sit in an area with season ticket holders and never seen these lads before or since. also, what has the celtic jerseys and flags they had got to do with supporting Ireland??
 
 

So does an item of clothing define a supporter Confused

I could wear an Australian rugby jersey to the game against Bosnia , does that mean i'm not supporting Ireland Confused
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Linfield jersey in the middle of the Nothern Irish support , what has that got to do with supporting Northern Ireland? Oh wait , there were Linfield players playing.

Darren O'Dea on the books of Celtic , not to mention Given and Keane are two ex Celtic players who could be the boyhood hero's of Celtic/Irish fans at that game. So is there any difference between a Linfield N.I. fan wearing his jersey with pride while still supporting N.I. , to a Celtic fan wearing a Celtic top with pride while supporting Ireland? Especially when there are current and ex players of both clubs on the pitch?

Did you also not think given the recession , some people may not have the money to buy both Ireland and Celtic jerseys or whatever jersey whenever they feel? 

P.S. in an ideal world i'd love if everyone would wear Ireland jerseys to the games , but an item of clothing doesnt always define a supporter! 



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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Not winding up here, and i know this thread was started as one of those completely unfunny and at this stage played out ybig 'jokes', however, are these people from Galway, Dublin or wherever that you know who support the Huns serious fans or just doing it for a bit of attention seeking and winding up?
 
do they support ireland as well?
What do they think of every Irish international that plays at Ibrox being roundly booed for example?


Brian Kerr is a Rangers fan as was his father and grandfather.  3 recent Irish Internationals Ritchie Sadlier, Alan Maybury and a 3rd who hasn't gone public are/were Rangers fans. 

I know quite a few Rangers fans in the Republic and they are as serious as your average Man United or Liverpool fan eg 1 home game every couple of seasons and watch the games on tv. 

I know of one of our regular aways fans under Jack who also followed Rangers everywhere at the time incl numerous european aways.  Haven't seen him at any of our games recently.

I know of a family of season ticket holders in the Aviva who went to Ibrox at least once this season and do follow Rangers - father went a bit more often before he had the kids.  

A former colleague goes to most home games and went to Japan(his only aways afaik although he could well be in Poland) and went to quite a few Rangers games.

Just because Rangers fans don't feel the need to show their British club allegiances at RoI games doesn't mean they don't exist. 

Spare me the anti Irish rubbish.  Rangers fans are anti Celtic (I wonder why Big smile) not anti Irish.

You need to brush up on your knowledge Embarrassed I can stay here all day and post up fact after fact , link after link if you want.




Do you not remember Rangers no signing Catholics policy? Now don't tell me that wasn't just a cover up to not sign Irish players , a club who has openly adopted "No Surrender" , Rangers in total haven't had more than 8 Irish players on their books in their history etc etc yet another clueless post from a person who knows f**k all about Scottish football!

Plenty of Rangers fans kicked up over the signing of Alan Smith "the fenian" so iv'e seen him called.




It is almost certain Rangers did operate a "no catholics" policy from at least the 1950's to the 1980's.  I fail to see how that could be anti Irish as opposed to anti Spanish.  They have since signed a number of RC players and tried to sign a number of Irish players.

The Billy Boys is certainly sectarian and there is no doubt there is a sectarian minority to the Rangers support.  Likewise the Celtic support has a sectarian minority

Rangers have an active supporters club in Dublin.

I've heard the anti Irish jibe thrown at a number of British clubs funnily enough incl Sunderland.  There was certainly an anti Irish element in Britain in the past and some of it would have manifested itself in football.    However an element of the Celtic support trying to portray Rangers as anti Irish doesn't hold water in my book and is merely trying to extend what is a club rivalry and try and obtain some moral high ground.

 

It is certain.

How many foreign players were moving to British clubs in the 80s ffs , thats a petty reason.

There was a limited number of foreign players allowed play per team also so to compare Irish and Spanish players at that time is nonsense.

LOL ?????? Who have Rangers genuinely tried to sign thats Irish , no media bullsh*t i want hard evidence as too what Irish players Rangers made bids for in the past 20 years. Bearing in mind you said "a number" of players.

A minority are you taking the piss? Confused

Rangers were always anti-Irish and anti-Catholic , funny how their biggest rivals were pro-Irish and supported by a majority Catholic fan base but were also open to Protestant players , fans and managers to join the club.

Rangers havent had 10 Irish players in their history to have togged out for them in a 130 years , now don't start comparing the likes of Doncaster or West Brom (for example) with Rangers when it comes to not signing Irish players because i'm not buying it. 


If there was an anti Irish policy at Rangers rather than an anti Catholic one surely it would be easier to cover it up by signing Scottish and English Catholics. 

They actually tried to sign Kevin Sheedy and Andy O'Brien at least.  In both cases the player refused late in the day.  As has been mentioned Alan smith is on their books and Alan Kernaghan is on the coaching staff.  The also tried to sign a guy from the north east a couple of years ago and he had to pull out because of local bigots threatening him.  Can't recall the name but I'm sur ehte article is out on the web somewhere.     
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Linfield jersey in the middle of the Nothern Irish support , what has that got to do with supporting Northern Ireland? Oh wait , there were Linfield players playing.

Darren O'Dea on the books of Celtic , not to mention Given and Keane are two ex Celtic players who could be the boyhood hero's of Celtic/Irish fans at that game. So is there any difference between a Linfield N.I. fan wearing his jersey with pride while still supporting N.I. , to a Celtic fan wearing a Celtic top with pride while supporting Ireland? Especially when there are current and ex players of both clubs on the pitch?

Did you also not think given the recession , some people may havent got the money to buy both Ireland and Celtic jerseys whenever they feel?

P.S. in an ideal world i'd love if everyone would wear Ireland jerseys to the games , but an item of clothing doesnt always define a supporter! 

 
do you seriously think that celtic jerseys are worn by Irish "fans" because O'Dea was on their books or because given and keane played for them?? also, celtic shirts at Ireland matches long before the recession!
 
the reason celtic fans wear their jerseys to Ireland matches is that its another arena to show their celtic support. it has zilch to do with supporting Ireland in my view.
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have they ever had an irish player play for their first team?

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