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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Doesn't really matter how they pronounce it, that's simply not the correct pronunciation of the name. It's an Irish name, the Irish pronunciation is the only "right" one.
So you’re saying the person is pronouncing their own name incorrectly LOL even for you that’s a stretch 
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

Worst one English commentators say is KAYhill instead of Cahill and then Irish people using same. Does my nut. 
Even when the player himself pronounces it as 'Kayhill'? It is Gary and Tim Kayhill, Ollie Cahill. Good commentators will make an effort to find out how the player pronounces it.

I am not buying this 'Hughban' sh*t from Pat Hoban though. He can f**k off with that nonsense.LOL
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"I am terribly sorry sir, but I heard you say your name there and you're saying it wrong."
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"I am terribly sorry sir, but I heard you say your name there and you're saying it wrong."
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That Huban sh*te grinds my bollox. Its f**king HOban ffs .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The O'Shea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 10:24pm
Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Doesn't really matter how they pronounce it, that's simply not the correct pronunciation of the name. It's an Irish name, the Irish pronunciation is the only "right" one.
So you’re saying the person is pronouncing their own name incorrectly LOL even for you that’s a stretch 

Yes, words have standardised pronunciations. Some words have more than one legitimate pronunciation (eg Maher); while others (like Cahill) do not. There's only one correct way to pronounce Cahill; now people can choose to say it however they want, but that doesn't mean the rest of us should indulge their mistake.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Doesn't really matter how they pronounce it, that's simply not the correct pronunciation of the name. It's an Irish name, the Irish pronunciation is the only "right" one.
So you’re saying the person is pronouncing their own name incorrectly LOL even for you that’s a stretch 

Yes, words have standardised pronunciations. Some words have more than one legitimate pronunciation (eg Maher); while others (like Cahill) do not. There's only one correct way to pronounce Cahill; now people can choose to say it however they want, but that doesn't mean the rest of us should indulge their mistake.

Well, which is it then? Is it names having a standardised pronunciation, or is it where they originate from?

If more people (i.e. in the UK/US/Australia) pronounce a name Doc-herty, or Shaw-nessy, Kay-hill - does that not mean that that is the correct way to say it? (of course not)

If the name (Doherty) originates from Inishowen in Donegal, where everyone pronounces Docherty - does that mean that that is the correct way to say it and all other forms wrong? (of course not)
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i have the final say on this guys and i say its doherty. Ok
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Originally posted by BippityBoop BippityBoop wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Doesn't really matter how they pronounce it, that's simply not the correct pronunciation of the name. It's an Irish name, the Irish pronunciation is the only "right" one.
So you’re saying the person is pronouncing their own name incorrectly LOL even for you that’s a stretch 

Yes, words have standardised pronunciations. Some words have more than one legitimate pronunciation (eg Maher); while others (like Cahill) do not. There's only one correct way to pronounce Cahill; now people can choose to say it however they want, but that doesn't mean the rest of us should indulge their mistake.

Well, which is it then? Is it names having a standardised pronunciation, or is it where they originate from?

If more people (i.e. in the UK/US/Australia) pronounce a name Doc-herty, or Shaw-nessy, Kay-hill - does that not mean that that is the correct way to say it? (of course not)

If the name (Doherty) originates from Inishowen in Donegal, where everyone pronounces Docherty - does that mean that that is the correct way to say it and all other forms wrong? (of course not)

Well done on failing to highlight to relevant sentence right after the one you did (ie the relevant one in relation to a name like Doherty). In a case where a name has two or more legitimate/standardised/indigenous pronunciations (or however else you want to phrase it), then best practice would probably be to pronounce it in the fashion the person does. The likes of "kayhill" and "Key-oh", however, aren't pronounced that way anywhere in Ireland, and thus are simply incorrect.


Edited by The O'Shea - 08 Apr 2019 at 7:14am
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I wonder will we see Mick reverse the setup during one of the games.

i.e. Coleman at right wing and Doherty behind him at right back.

Looking back over his career Coleman has played right wing a few times
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

I wonder will we see Mick reverse the setup during one of the games.

i.e. Coleman at right wing and Doherty behind him at right back.

Looking back over his career Coleman has played right wing a few times

not going to happen i'd say. looks like doherty is going to again be sidelined.
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

I wonder will we see Mick reverse the setup during one of the games.

i.e. Coleman at right wing and Doherty behind him at right back.

Looking back over his career Coleman has played right wing a few times

not going to happen i'd say. looks like doherty is going to again be sidelined.


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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

I wonder will we see Mick reverse the setup during one of the games.

i.e. Coleman at right wing and Doherty behind him at right back.

Looking back over his career Coleman has played right wing a few times

not going to happen i'd say. looks like doherty is going to again be sidelined.


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actually ya pretty much that is what Mick told all of us.


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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

I wonder will we see Mick reverse the setup during one of the games.

i.e. Coleman at right wing and Doherty behind him at right back.

Looking back over his career Coleman has played right wing a few times

That's how they finished against Georgia. Think Coleman was too knackered to get back after a final break forward so he told Doherty to go to right back.

I think Coleman dropping back when Doherty overlaps could work but I'd  be nervous trying it over 90 minutes and there's no way Mick will try  it against Denmark. 
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

Worst one English commentators say is KAYhill instead of Cahill and then Irish people using same. Does my nut. 
Even when the player himself pronounces it as 'Kayhill'? It is Gary and Tim Kayhill


Fairly sure Gary was Gary Cahill in his Villa days, he only became Kayhill at a later stage
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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

I wonder will we see Mick reverse the setup during one of the games.

i.e. Coleman at right wing and Doherty behind him at right back.

Looking back over his career Coleman has played right wing a few times

That's how they finished against Georgia. Think Coleman was too knackered to get back after a final break forward so he told Doherty to go to right back.

I think Coleman dropping back when Doherty overlaps could work but I'd  be nervous trying it over 90 minutes and there's no way Mick will try  it against Denmark. 

To be fair that was a once-off. It was more common-sense than anything else, considering Coleman was out of position and there was little time left in the game. I don't think we'll ever see a pairing of Doherty at RB and Coleman at RM.
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