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Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

Republic of Ireland full-back Matt Doherty faces an uncertain future at Tottenham with manager Jose Mourinho harbouring doubts over the 29-year-old's chances of succeeding at the club

Manager Jose Mourinho faces an uncertain future at Tottenham with chairman Levy harbouring doubts over the 58 year-olds chances of succeeding at the club. Football eh..

Doherty is an easy target for JM - not playing well, not a fans favourite, not an English international so media won’t be defending him, etc...  Hopefully he’ll outstay Jose.

I’d he moves, gets more game time so be it. He’ll also take care his salary increase from his Wolves days with him.

Yeah because Dele Alli is getting preferential treatment 
you are correct - the Alli situation is an odd one - they could have let him go and Jose would be not have to worry about him until the summer at least.

Harry winks is not getting preferential treatment either so we can rule out the English element to it.

If you look at the defence, beside Dier , they have all been in and out of the team which is very unlike Jose.
Too many costly mistakes and last minute goals will have annoyed him. I’m sure he wants a consistent back line he can trust.
Doherty is not his only problem. 


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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

Republic of Ireland full-back Matt Doherty faces an uncertain future at Tottenham with manager Jose Mourinho harbouring doubts over the 29-year-old's chances of succeeding at the club

Manager Jose Mourinho faces an uncertain future at Tottenham with chairman Levy harbouring doubts over the 58 year-olds chances of succeeding at the club. Football eh..

Doherty is an easy target for JM - not playing well, not a fans favourite, not an English international so media won’t be defending him, etc...  Hopefully he’ll outstay Jose.

I’d he moves, gets more game time so be it. He’ll also take care his salary increase from his Wolves days with him.

Yeah because Dele Alli is getting preferential treatment 
you are correct - the Alli situation is an odd one - they could have let him go and Jose would be not have to worry about him until the summer at least.
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Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

Republic of Ireland full-back Matt Doherty faces an uncertain future at Tottenham with manager Jose Mourinho harbouring doubts over the 29-year-old's chances of succeeding at the club

Manager Jose Mourinho faces an uncertain future at Tottenham with chairman Levy harbouring doubts over the 58 year-olds chances of succeeding at the club. Football eh..

Doherty is an easy target for JM - not playing well, not a fans favourite, not an English international so media won’t be defending him, etc...  Hopefully he’ll outstay Jose.

I’d he moves, gets more game time so be it. He’ll also take care his salary increase from his Wolves days with him.

Yeah because Dele Alli is getting preferential treatment 
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Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

Republic of Ireland full-back Matt Doherty faces an uncertain future at Tottenham with manager Jose Mourinho harbouring doubts over the 29-year-old's chances of succeeding at the club

Manager Jose Mourinho faces an uncertain future at Tottenham with chairman Levy harbouring doubts over the 58 year-olds chances of succeeding at the club. Football eh..

Doherty is an easy target for JM - not playing well, not a fans favourite, not an English international so media won’t be defending him, etc...  Hopefully he’ll outstay Jose.

I’d he moves, gets more game time so be it. He’ll also take his salary increase from his Wolves days with him.


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Republic of Ireland full-back Matt Doherty faces an uncertain future at Tottenham with manager Jose Mourinho harbouring doubts over the 29-year-old's chances of succeeding at the club

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Probably a bit harsh but Doherty doesn't look in great shape either
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Totally agree. Jose is a beaten docket.   Doherty is making errors though 

Yeah, he doesn't look the same player as the past few seasons. Being dropped for Tanganga won't help his confidence 
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Actually thought Doherty looked good. Linked up well with Bale, constant outlet and did what he had to defensively.
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Totally agree. Jose is a beaten docket.   Doherty is making errors though 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

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On at Half Time and Young Doherty’s first job is to lose possession and West Ham score 

He was hardly at fault for that goal, there were a good 2 phases of play after he gave it away.

That’s not the point.  Would you be the type of
Manager who blames a player for a mistake only when it ends up in a goal or to blame a player privately even if he gets away with it.  The great managers spot the errors all the time even if they don’t end up in the net or they are 2 or 3 phases before the goal.  

 

There's a big difference between giving the ball away in the middle of the pitch and giving it away which directly leads to a goal. It was poor play from a lad shot of confidence. He'll outlast Mourihno anyway. He loves making examples of players and destroying their belief. Look at Shaw at Untied, despicable stuff from Jose


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Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

On at Half Time and Young Doherty’s first job is to lose possession and West Ham score 

He was hardly at fault for that goal, there were a good 2 phases of play after he gave it away.

That’s not the point.  Would you be the type of
Manager who blames a player for a mistake only when it ends up in a goal or to blame a player privately even if he gets away with it.  The great managers spot the errors all the time even if they don’t end up in the net or they are 2 or 3 phases before the goal.  

 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mr. Snrub Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 1:13pm
Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

On at Half Time and Young Doherty’s first job is to lose possession and West Ham score 

He was hardly at fault for that goal, there were a good 2 phases of play after he gave it away.


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On at Half Time and Young Doherty’s first job is to lose possession and West Ham score 
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Doherty, Randolph and Mipo on the bench today.

Good to see Mipo still pushing for a game but Doherty and Randolph not having good seasons.
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Becoming annoying on here people claiming that fans of clubs in GB are imagining that our players are not having good seasons

It’s almost as if Shane Duffy is playing well but Celtic fans just don’t like him, the way some talk 

Agreed fully,

There is also a fear amongst Irish supporters that calling a player out for playing poorly would deem you unpatriotic or not a fan. 

As it stands we have very few players that you could say are in great form, but hopefully over the coming weeks that will change.
 

It has been borderline disaster for Irish players this year hasn’t it. 2 of the few who are in great Collins and Egan get injured and are out for the rest of the year then pretty much. It just sums it up. 
The younger lads it’s going to be mixed it’s part and parcel of developing/learning their trade. Some of the senior players it really hasn’t gone to plan.

Randolph could have easily moved to a Championship club, Manning left QPR to become a bit part player at Swansea, Hourihane despite knowing he wasn't going to get regular game time at Villa stayed their until January, Molumby the same at Brighton before he joined Preston, Parrot's ill advised move to Millwall etc 

I can't help but think a lot our of problems are somewhat self inflicted unfortunately, plenty of situations above could have been avoided.
 

No true Obafemi Connell Kilkenny Travers etc plenty players that could be out on loan that aren’t also. Look it happens if there’s any positive things can only look up. 

Regarding Fluice on Egan yes bottom of the League but I think he’s essentially been there best player this year. O’Connell Egan Berge the 3 top players for me along with Henderson last year. They are currently without all 4 now 3 with long term injuries of course Henderson back at United. 

Hard for a team like them to do without these players think the 4 of them would play for most teams outside the Top 6/8 easily.
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It was an analogy. Where else do you get your general information if you haven’t watched a player in general only 2nd hand. Social media and forums is a huge barometer of course you don’t take everything as gospel I don’t. Just a general guide. Not withstanding of course watching games is the No.1 barometer I don’t dispute that for a second.

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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Why wouldn’t you reference social media or fan forums they are the currency of modern day public opinion you get a fantastic guide into general opinion. Forums like this where us “gobsh*tes” post all the time are included in that. What sort of a statement is that to make.

As for being afraid of fans criticising a load of our players like I don’t even know where to start with that I have been critical of loads of our players.

Doherty ain’t alone in this Dier Davies Aurier tend to be the other 3 who get it in the neck as much as him reading Spurs fans on social media. None of the above played against City last weekend and they were embarrassing. City or no City they basically gave up. 

Just something I have noticed from Spurs fans but since one is Irish obviously who am I going to refer to on here. 

I thought Doherty played well Thursday night yes. Doesn’t mean he hasn’t been poor in games all year. 


Are you actually serious? 

Ah yes good old social media, whereby one minute generic Man United fan from India will deem Harry Maguire to be a great defender and as soon as he makes a mistake he's deemed awful and useless?

"The modern currency of football opinion" wtf have I just read, did Roy Curtis steal your log in details? 

Forums are as hit and miss as Twitter or Facebook, posters will form opinions on a player and will rarely change them whether they like the player or not. 

Nothing can beat watching a game or extended highlights yourself and form your own opinion.
 

Yes about watching the game. what are you doing currently down the pub discussing with people. If you haven’t watched a game then social media/forums are the next best guide you have. A lot of stupid opinions but again that would be no different down the pub either. nothing controversial about that at all. 

Being down in the pub slobbering over pints is hardly a great barometer to measure how players do in a game on TV with all due respect is it?

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Seems you can search the Internet and find the desired answer to any question you can ask.
If you want negative reviews of one of our players, you will find them and vice-versa.

But trust what you see with your own eyes and the manager's decisions - if a lad is playing weekly then he must be doing something right and again, vice-versa.
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