The Arsenal thread

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   I must admit that as a Spurs fan, I'm now actually worried by this Arsenal team, since they are clearly now contenders, unlike in previous seasons, where they continually flattered to deceive.

Though I say "contenders", secure in the knowledge that with Man City so dominant, Arsenal are still only contending for 2nd place, rather than the title.

As to whether they'll make 2nd, they're helped by the fact that Liverpool have already got too much to do to aim for anything higher than top four, while Chelsea are still in transition (owners, manager etc), so may not challenge for 2nd this season.

How far can Arsenal go this season? I think they've got two worries, the first being squad size, as already noted. The other is experience, in the sense that theyre still not "battle-hardened", and won't be until they've actually battled their way to the front and stayed there.

Since for all that they have talented young players who may be fearless etc, most of them have never faced a full 38 game season, plus Europe and the cups, with all the pressure and expectation that that brings. (Nor has their manager.)

All that said, they do have momentum and as history shows, 'Big Mo' is often the most important player in any team - see eg Leicester in 2015/16.