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Every time a player runs at Darmian, he either gets beaten easily, or he ends up hacking the player down. He is no way whatsoever a good defender. I'd rate Young and Valencia, both converted wingers as far far better defenders than him. If he was a good defender, as ye are saying, he would nailed down to start for Mourinhos United side.

He wouldn’t have 30+ caps for Italy if he couldn’t defend, look he’s not good enough for United and will be third choice RB once Valencia and Dalot get fit even still I expect him to move to a decent Italian side before the window shuts.

But yea poorest defensive player you’ve ever seen LOL



Your post is just a ball of contradictions. You're trying to make out that he's a decent player based on his caps for Italy, yet at the same time you are saying he's behind Valencia and Dalot. I mean Valencia is obviously not a strong point in this team.

Darmian has no ability to deal with a wide player running at him. He is totally ill disciplined, and just resorts to pure lazy defending and fouling. I'm amazed anyone watching him play for United for the past few years would say any different. 

Yea Valencia who has been one of the best right backs in the league the past couple of seasons! Nice one Hans Confused
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uninspiring start from Utd, looks like it will be more of the same this season, if Bailly stays fit he could maybe do a half decent job at center half
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Poison One ''I am a head coach now not a manager''.

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Poison One ''I am a head coach now not a manager''.

Won't be long until the disease will be managing elsewhere
Be gone in a couple of months, all is not good between him and the hierarchy 
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Every time a player runs at Darmian, he either gets beaten easily, or he ends up hacking the player down. He is no way whatsoever a good defender. I'd rate Young and Valencia, both converted wingers as far far better defenders than him. If he was a good defender, as ye are saying, he would nailed down to start for Mourinhos United side.

He wouldn’t have 30+ caps for Italy if he couldn’t defend, look he’s not good enough for United and will be third choice RB once Valencia and Dalot get fit even still I expect him to move to a decent Italian side before the window shuts.

But yea poorest defensive player you’ve ever seen LOL



Your post is just a ball of contradictions. You're trying to make out that he's a decent player based on his caps for Italy, yet at the same time you are saying he's behind Valencia and Dalot. I mean Valencia is obviously not a strong point in this team.

Darmian has no ability to deal with a wide player running at him. He is totally ill disciplined, and just resorts to pure lazy defending and fouling. I'm amazed anyone watching him play for United for the past few years would say any different. 

Yea Valencia who has been one of the best right backs in the league the past couple of seasons! Nice one Hans Confused

Is this the same 'one of the best right backs in the league' that most United fans are now spitting blood about no top notch replacement coming in for him? That best right back?
"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Every time a player runs at Darmian, he either gets beaten easily, or he ends up hacking the player down. He is no way whatsoever a good defender. I'd rate Young and Valencia, both converted wingers as far far better defenders than him. If he was a good defender, as ye are saying, he would nailed down to start for Mourinhos United side.

He wouldn’t have 30+ caps for Italy if he couldn’t defend, look he’s not good enough for United and will be third choice RB once Valencia and Dalot get fit even still I expect him to move to a decent Italian side before the window shuts.

But yea poorest defensive player you’ve ever seen LOL



Your post is just a ball of contradictions. You're trying to make out that he's a decent player based on his caps for Italy, yet at the same time you are saying he's behind Valencia and Dalot. I mean Valencia is obviously not a strong point in this team.

Darmian has no ability to deal with a wide player running at him. He is totally ill disciplined, and just resorts to pure lazy defending and fouling. I'm amazed anyone watching him play for United for the past few years would say any different. 

Yea Valencia who has been one of the best right backs in the league the past couple of seasons! Nice one Hans Confused

Is this the same 'one of the best right backs in the league' that most United fans are now spitting blood about no top notch replacement coming in for him? That best right back?

Did you do a poll with “most United fans”? He’s 33 years of age! I don’t think many fans were “spitting blood” for a top notch replacement! I would assume most would be happy to have a promising young player in Dalot competing for the right back spot with him.
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Paul Pogba asked if he is happy at Man Utd: “There are things I cannot say, otherwise I will get fined. If you are enjoying what you do you give your the best. But if you're not happy, you cannot give your best.” 
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Brendan, simple question. Is the United full back positions their weakest positions over the past few seasons?
"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Valencia and Young are both 33 and need replacing. They wouldn't get near the Man City squad but the way Jose plays ( defend deep and conserve energy) they have performed well.
They don't make a lot of mistakes and will play the Jose way.

At the end of the season both are out of contract with Valencia having a one year option to extend.

Also out of contract at the end of the season - Luke Shaw, Phil jones and Smalling. I'd say Jose wished this was a year earlier so he could let the CBs go and force the board into buying a replacement.

Mata(31), Herrera (29) and Darmian(28) have one season left.


That's 8 players out of contract next season. You'd probably only keep 3/4 of them.

I'd keep Shaw, Smalling and Herrera.



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A few of those mentioned have a one year extension afaik that the club can use.


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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Brendan, simple question. Is the United full back positions their weakest positions over the past few seasons?

There are two full back positions! Right back certainly hasn’t been United’s weakest position over the past few years.
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By any reasonable measure Valencia was one of the best full backs in a league a couple of seasons back. He had one or two excellent seasons and he cut out his rash fouling. 


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Valencia's replacement was signed in the summer.Its unlikely but if Shaw can get his previous form back then LB would be sorted as well.

Young will probably come in once he's fit but I'd love to see Shaw given a proper run of games. When a LB wasn't signed in the summer it's a case of making the best of what's there .
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Valencia has been one of Uniteds biggest problems in the past 2 seasons. He offers nothing in an attacking sense. He is, for a converted winger, quite solid defensively though. For a team like United who should be on the front foot in most league games, that is a disastrous situation at right back. Especially when a lot of the times under Mourinho, he employs a back 4 where Valencia was given license to consistently attack and the United left back was like a 3rd centre back at times. So massive amounts of play were going through Valencia. They were going there, and they were dying there.
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Valencia has been one of Uniteds biggest problems in the past 2 seasons. He offers nothing in an attacking sense. He is, for a converted winger, quite solid defensively though. For a team like United who should be on the front foot in most league games, that is a disastrous situation at right back. Especially when a lot of the times under Mourinho, he employs a back 4 where Valencia was given license to consistently attack and the United left back was like a 3rd centre back at times. So massive amounts of play were going through Valencia. They were going there, and they were dying there.

You just make stuff up when it comes to United, when did Ashley Young ever look like a 3rd centre back when he played?
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You haven't noticed plenty of times in the past 2 seasons that Valencias average position for United is around 40 yards higher up the pitch than the LB? I'm talking over the past 2 seasons now, not just the last few months when Young became the regular LB. Mourinho has regularly employed a tactic at United where 1 FB has license to attack, and the other is clearly told to be far more conservative. Mourinho has employed this tactic numerous times with previous teams, Chelsea had Ivanovic as a far more attacking outlet than Azpilicueta when they won the title a few years ago under Mourinho. Tbf, it's a really basic tactic that has been used for decades.
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

You haven't noticed plenty of times in the past 2 seasons that Valencias average position for United is around 40 yards higher up the pitch than the LB? I'm talking over the past 2 seasons now, not just the last few months when Young became the regular LB. Mourinho has regularly employed a tactic at United where 1 FB has license to attack, and the other is clearly told to be far more conservative. Mourinho has employed this tactic numerous times with previous teams, Chelsea had Ivanovic as a far more attacking outlet than Azpilicueta when they won the title a few years ago under Mourinho. Tbf, it's a really basic tactic that has been used for decades.

You won’t see many teams that will have both full backs attacking on the same play it leaves teams awfully short at the back if they get caught on the counter! A strange dig even by your standards at Mourinho I must say. 
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