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A leinster or munster club match is more enjoyable then and Ireland match atmosphere wise. Far less gobsh*tes at them although there is some. 
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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

A fella in the Indo saying there were only 10k Irish fans in the stadium less than ten minutes before kick off and this for one of the most hyped home matches in many years.

It shows they're attracting a lot of fairweather Johnny come lately fans, just like the football team.

Always found it a very different crowd, loads there for the day out, more interested in pints than watching the match. 

Drove me nuts there the last day watching lads coming and going for pints during the actual game when people would've killed to be there. 
 
There is a huge amount of tickets allocated for corporate hospitality etc. An awful lot more in the rugby than there would be with the football.
 
As for the match itself, England basically beat Ireland at their own game. Really good line speed, plenty of tactical kicking when in possession, forcing mistakes and then clinically pouncing on them. Just like last year's 6 Nations, Ireland looked off the pace in the opening fixture but, unlike last year, the opening game was against a good side that were really up for it as opposed to a pretty average French side.
 
Scotland game should be interesting. Seeing as they are in Ireland's group for the upcoming WC both teams will be keen to lay down a marker.
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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

A leinster or munster club match is more enjoyable then and Ireland match atmosphere wise. Far less gobsh*tes at them although there is some. 
I am not sure about a Leinster match, but I have been to a few Munster matches and it is like a congregation of every **** in Ireland. A GAA match on speed.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

A leinster or munster club match is more enjoyable then and Ireland match atmosphere wise. Far less gobsh*tes at them although there is some. 
I am not sure about a Leinster match, but I have been to a few Munster matches and it is like a congregation of every **** in Ireland. A GAA match on speed.

During the 2000s every lad in Munster with an engineering degree was handed a pair of wranglers, an SUV and a Munster season ticket 


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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

A leinster or munster club match is more enjoyable then and Ireland match atmosphere wise. Far less gobsh*tes at them although there is some. 
I am not sure about a Leinster match, but I have been to a few Munster matches and it is like a congregation of every **** in Ireland. A GAA match on speed.

During the 2000s every lad in Munster with an engineering degree was handed a pair of wranglers, an SUV and a Munster season ticket 

and you were cheffing it in France terrorising teenagers with rice crispy cakes 
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Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

A leinster or munster club match is more enjoyable then and Ireland match atmosphere wise. Far less gobsh*tes at them although there is some. 
I am not sure about a Leinster match, but I have been to a few Munster matches and it is like a congregation of every **** in Ireland. A GAA match on speed.

During the 2000s every lad in Munster with an engineering degree was handed a pair of wranglers, an SUV and a Munster season ticket 

and you were cheffing it in France terrorising teenagers with rice crispy cakes 


Did I touch a nerve :). 

Never cheffed in France :) 
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Looking for a ticket for the Wales Ireland game in Cardiff. Long shot but let me know if anyone has one.
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It's time to bring in a relegation play off in the 6 nations. Italy couldn't even give the Welsh B team much of a match at home. Each season the 4 highest European teams in the world rankings, currently ; Georgia (ahead of Italy in the world rankings) Romania, Russia and Spain should play a mini tournament with the winner playing the bottom team in the 6 nations for a place in the next years championship.The big 5 will be afraid one of them might somehow finish bottom some year but if they do that and lose such a play off they deserve relegation. Plus who wouldn't enjoy seeing some D4 lads having to trek over to Tbilisi in the middle of winter.Smile
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Imagine living in a world where the BBC are paying Jamie Heaslip to speak! Or is it one of those  back to work schemes?
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Tis getting harder and harder too watch, the games slowly turning into league and a poor version of it. Ireland should have being beaten today, little or no progress from the english gameCry
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Imagine living in a world where the BBC are paying Jamie Heaslip to speak! Or is it one of those  back to work schemes?
 

Funny thing is he seemed to have just slightly toned down his insufferable privilaged 'D4 loike' accent to his British tv audience.  But don't worry he replaced that annoyance by spouting No:671 of sport cliches in describing Rory Best's captaincy style as "putting an arm round your shoulder" after the England defeat Dead 


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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Imagine living in a world where the BBC are paying Jamie Heaslip to speak! Or is it one of those  back to work schemes?
 

Funny thing is he seemed to have just slightly toned down his insufferable privilaged 'D4 loike' accent to his British tv audience.  But don't worry he replaced that annoyance by spouting No:671 of sport cliches in describing Rory Best's captaincy style as "putting an arm round your shoulder" after the England defeat Dead 


If you want someone to point out the obvious in a whiny, nasally voice then Heaslip is the man for the job. He is doing irreparable damage to the land of his birth internationally.


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Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

It's time to bring in a relegation play off in the 6 nations. Italy couldn't even give the Welsh B team much of a match at home. Each season the 4 highest European teams in the world rankings, currently ; Georgia (ahead of Italy in the world rankings) Romania, Russia and Spain should play a mini tournament with the winner playing the bottom team in the 6 nations for a place in the next years championship.The big 5 will be afraid one of them might somehow finish bottom some year but if they do that and lose such a play off they deserve relegation. Plus who wouldn't enjoy seeing some D4 lads having to trek over to Tbilisi in the middle of winter.Smile

There already is a tournament with those teams

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_Europe_International_Championships
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Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

It's time to bring in a relegation play off in the 6 nations. Italy couldn't even give the Welsh B team much of a match at home. Each season the 4 highest European teams in the world rankings, currently ; Georgia (ahead of Italy in the world rankings) Romania, Russia and Spain should play a mini tournament with the winner playing the bottom team in the 6 nations for a place in the next years championship.The big 5 will be afraid one of them might somehow finish bottom some year but if they do that and lose such a play off they deserve relegation. Plus who wouldn't enjoy seeing some D4 lads having to trek over to Tbilisi in the middle of winter.Smile
so basically replace one poor team with another. What would be the point in that.
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

It's time to bring in a relegation play off in the 6 nations. Italy couldn't even give the Welsh B team much of a match at home. Each season the 4 highest European teams in the world rankings, currently ; Georgia (ahead of Italy in the world rankings) Romania, Russia and Spain should play a mini tournament with the winner playing the bottom team in the 6 nations for a place in the next years championship.The big 5 will be afraid one of them might somehow finish bottom some year but if they do that and lose such a play off they deserve relegation. Plus who wouldn't enjoy seeing some D4 lads having to trek over to Tbilisi in the middle of winter.Smile
so basically replace one poor team with another. What would be the point in that.


You make that case for all relegation promotion scenarios.  Look at wolves this year. Georgia deserve a go at it 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

It's time to bring in a relegation play off in the 6 nations. Italy couldn't even give the Welsh B team much of a match at home. Each season the 4 highest European teams in the world rankings, currently ; Georgia (ahead of Italy in the world rankings) Romania, Russia and Spain should play a mini tournament with the winner playing the bottom team in the 6 nations for a place in the next years championship.The big 5 will be afraid one of them might somehow finish bottom some year but if they do that and lose such a play off they deserve relegation. Plus who wouldn't enjoy seeing some D4 lads having to trek over to Tbilisi in the middle of winter.Smile
so basically replace one poor team with another. What would be the point in that.


You make that case for all relegation promotion scenarios.  Look at wolves this year. Georgia deserve a go at it 

Its nothing like other relegations. Do you think georgia are anywhere near the level of the other 5 nations. Eh no. So swapping them for italy just makes no real sense. Plus who the fcuk wants to travel to georgia for a nothing game. 
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

It's time to bring in a relegation play off in the 6 nations. Italy couldn't even give the Welsh B team much of a match at home. Each season the 4 highest European teams in the world rankings, currently ; Georgia (ahead of Italy in the world rankings) Romania, Russia and Spain should play a mini tournament with the winner playing the bottom team in the 6 nations for a place in the next years championship.The big 5 will be afraid one of them might somehow finish bottom some year but if they do that and lose such a play off they deserve relegation. Plus who wouldn't enjoy seeing some D4 lads having to trek over to Tbilisi in the middle of winter.Smile
so basically replace one poor team with another. What would be the point in that.


You make that case for all relegation promotion scenarios.  Look at wolves this year. Georgia deserve a go at it 

Its nothing like other relegations. Do you think georgia are anywhere near the level of the other 5 nations. Eh no. So swapping them for italy just makes no real sense. Plus who the fcuk wants to travel to georgia for a nothing game. 
It is about whether the people who run rugby want the sport to grow or not. Italy are currently nowhere near the level and have had twenty years at it. Of course, their best team was in the years before they were allowed in, which shows the importance of letting teams compete when they are at their best. Romania in the late eighties were another side who could only play the big boys in tests and the enthusiasm for the game was dampened.
And if the Six Nations is just a tournament for weekend breaks then they shouldn't bother with the matches at all. Anyway, who would want to go to Dublin for anything! All they do is complain about the prices when they get home.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

It's time to bring in a relegation play off in the 6 nations. Italy couldn't even give the Welsh B team much of a match at home. Each season the 4 highest European teams in the world rankings, currently ; Georgia (ahead of Italy in the world rankings) Romania, Russia and Spain should play a mini tournament with the winner playing the bottom team in the 6 nations for a place in the next years championship.The big 5 will be afraid one of them might somehow finish bottom some year but if they do that and lose such a play off they deserve relegation. Plus who wouldn't enjoy seeing some D4 lads having to trek over to Tbilisi in the middle of winter.Smile
so basically replace one poor team with another. What would be the point in that.


You make that case for all relegation promotion scenarios.  Look at wolves this year. Georgia deserve a go at it 

Its nothing like other relegations. Do you think georgia are anywhere near the level of the other 5 nations. Eh no. So swapping them for italy just makes no real sense. Plus who the fcuk wants to travel to georgia for a nothing game. 
It is about whether the people who run rugby want the sport to grow or not. Italy are currently nowhere near the level and have had twenty years at it. Of course, their best team was in the years before they were allowed in, which shows the importance of letting teams compete when they are at their best. Romania in the late eighties were another side who could only play the big boys in tests and the enthusiasm for the game was dampened.
And if the Six Nations is just a tournament for weekend breaks then they shouldn't bother with the matches at all. Anyway, who would want to go to Dublin for anything! All they do is complain about the prices when they get home.

Exactly you need a meritocracy.  There is no incentive for Italy to improve as they feel they are so far behind they can remain last and take the money.  They can become considerably worse than Georgia and they will still remain in the competition. 
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