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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:


How many of the City "dozen points" winners crowd are still around? Or have they all vanished for the festive programme??

Jurrgen Klopp is not the kind of coach known for throwing 6 point leads away. Liverpool will still be ahead of City after the game there.

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He is though, the kind of coach that throws away 7 points leads 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/they-are-still-a-small-club-john-aldridge-says-man-city-have-one-big-advantage-over-liverpool-in-title-race-37756206.html

Ahh right, so it’s because of all the pressure on Liverpool that they’ve won just one league cup in the last 13 years John? LOL


Aldridge was right in the end 
No expectancy on City to win games gave them a big advantage LOL
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Do you even realise how childish and pathetic you are Baggio?

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That’ll do me til later
I haven’t even started on Moleman yet Wink
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

That’ll do me til later
I haven’t even started on Moleman yet Wink

Be gentle with me LOL
"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Guardiola is one of the worst possible managers you can have in this situation because he is so obsessed - particularly with winning the European Cup. 

He tends to take defeats really badly.
Really?

During his career, he has four times seen his team crash out of the CL in the quarters or semi's, but still go on to win the league title (once with Barca, twice with Bayern and last season with City). 

As for his (undoubtedly) obsessive nature, like eg SAF, he's obsessive about winning every single game he ever plays, whether CL, PL or a training ground 5-a-side.

Imo his experience and temperament are strengths, not weaknesses.
He's only once gone on to win a league title after going out of the Champions League - 2010 - and he had Messi then

All the other years he went out of the Champions League he either didn't win the League title or had it already won

That’s twice now

He’d never won a title coming from behind they also said a few months ago 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Yep, I called Liverpool in August and wouldn't change my mind now.
 

 

Called it early 

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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Remember in the summer on here everyone was saying there was no way Liverpool could win the league as they’d no chance of making up the 21 points (or whatever it was) on City from last season, as if that gap was still in place 

Looks like everyone was right! 

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Remember in the summer on here everyone was saying there was no way Liverpool could win the league as they’d no chance of making up the 21 points (or whatever it was) on City from last season, as if that gap was still in place 

Looks like everyone was right! 

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delighted to be wrong 
Unlike some on here

Anyone seen Sid?
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Sid's gone over to Liverpool to celebrate their open top bus moral victory parade. 

Born to Runner Up are playing at it. 
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Think you can take everything that Sid says with a pinch of salt
Saying that. If they had won it you'd never hear the end of it
 
Well done to City, just that little bit better than Liverpool in the end
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Liverpool must look back at that Man U match as being key.

Man U were missing a few players and then more got injured during the match. That was 3 points for the taking but they seemed comfortable with a draw.

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Liverpool must look back at that Man U match as being key.

Man U were missing a few players and then more got injured during the match. That was 3 points for the taking but they seemed comfortable with a draw.

I'd say they'll look back with more regret on the draws with Leicester and West Ham. Possibly Everton as well. 
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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Liverpool must look back at that Man U match as being key.

Man U were missing a few players and then more got injured during the match. That was 3 points for the taking but they seemed comfortable with a draw.


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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Liverpool must look back at that Man U match as being key.

Man U were missing a few players and then more got injured during the match. That was 3 points for the taking but they seemed comfortable with a draw.


United costing Liverpool the title Clap

Planning will resurface out of his bunker after Liverpool win the CL to probably tell us that Liverpool's draw with a depleted United team didn't matter in the league title race LOL


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Planning will see it as a moral victory as City only won it by 1 point and not by 12 as many pundits were predicting at the start. I wonder is he going to reveal his dossier of incorrect refereeing decisions for every club over the season.
 
Hard to see anyone other than City and Liverpool fighting it out again next season.
I think Klopp will try to sign a creative midfielder this summer. That's all they've lacked really IMO.
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Dunno whether it means anything (probably not), but apparently of the last five teams to finish 2nd in the PL by a point or GD, four have gone on to win the title the following season. 

Which may be related to another idea, that "The best teams always win the league" (or "The table never lies").

Matthew Benham, self-made multi-millionaire owner of Matchbook, Smartodds, Brentford FC and FC Midtjylland, is as well qualified through business, statistics, gambling and football to comment as anyone, and he disputes this idea.

He always says that football is the most random of major sports, where any game can come down to a single incident, such as an unlucky bounce, missed penalty or incorrect refereeing decision etc. And in a close run contest, between two closely matched sides, one or two games can actually make the difference, even at the end of 38 games.

An obvious example is Gerrard's slip against Chelsea, but more recently if you look at City's 2-1 victory over Liverpool in January, Stones managed to clear Mane's effort off the line with 1 cm to spare. Had that one gone over, the title would have been Liverpool's.

Which is hardly proof that City are "better" than Liverpool or v.v., but Benham reckons that you may need to monitor teams over as much as 100 games, to ascertain just which is the "best" team over any given period within that time.

Which in turn may explain how obviously dominant teams like Bayern, Juve or PSG can win their league every season, but so few English teams manage to retain the title even for one more season.

P.S. Noting that the team which gains the most points isn't necessarily the "best" team, is not the same as saying they don't deserve it.




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