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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22173 |
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I've absolutely no problem with posters defending their favourites players or having blinded loyalty towards them to a point, but when someone makes a fair and balanced opinion on how they feel about a certain player this shouldn't be met with a barrage of pettiness.
I don't rate McClean anymore, that's just my opinion and that doesn't mean it's right either.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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Liam Brady Joined: 06 Oct 2014 Location: Co. Tyrone Status: Offline Points: 1172 |
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How are some people taking offence to people saying mcclean looses the ball often? remember the video of him loosing the ball 20 something times against Georgia tries his best, probably a good sub to bring on against a tiring team.
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34834 |
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No issue with any one offering their opinions. It's ongoing repetitive negativity that I have issue with. You don't need to tell us daily that you don't rate him and others. We get it. The fact is McClean got POTY and it's turned into a negative . Edited by horsebox - 06 Aug 2020 at 12:39pm |
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9540 |
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Because he won POTY for Stoke, so for the next few weeks we have to not only be happy for his achievement, but also pretend that he has the flawless footballing ability of Ronaldo. Any suggestion that he may have weaknesses in his game is akin to drop-kicking Mother Theresa herself.
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We're decent enough..
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Left foot
Ray Houghton Joined: 16 Aug 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Some fair points horse, and I agree with your observation of repetition on this forum, but to be fair that would apply to every single thread. Not just mcclean. See Whelan and Hendrick as examples. It is an achievement that mcclean has got poty with Stoke, especially when you consider that its a popular vote and hes quite political. So it kind of doubles the achievement. I'm looking at this from an ireland perspective, I think everyone is chomping at the bit (pun intended) at the prospect of the Kenny era. I for one, would like us to attempt to keep the ball and build from the back. That's as far as my expectation are, not expecting barcelona or winning games by margins. Just want to see us play more technical football. I've seen hours and hours of mcclean and whelan etc and my opinion is that they would likely struggle with that strategy. Just my opinion... |
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Scissors Kick
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9540 |
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Only one person "b*tching" here by the look of it...
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We're decent enough..
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Conan
Davey Langan I’m not very bright. Joined: 11 Mar 2015 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 932 |
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I'd have given it to Nick Powell who at least has footballing talent or . Rest of the Stoke team apart from a couple of others have been pretty desperate though.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22173 |
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Therein lies the problem, a wingers job is primarily to be an attacking threat, create and perhaps even dazzle not be best known for putting a tackle in. |
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9540 |
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I'd say the bigger problem is that at least half of the tackles in that video resulted in fouls being given against us.
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We're decent enough..
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Reillers88
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Some absolutely majestic tackles there - but some of them are borderline criminal! No one will ever doubt his passion but one of the problems with McClean has always been that he plays so close to the edge that he's a red card waiting to happen.
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Baldrick
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I think he gets so much support from irish fans more for his passion and his political allegiances than he does for his footballing ability. If he was of the west brit type and played like he did I doubt he would get half as much support.
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AKA pedantic kunt
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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If he was of the west Brit type he probably wouldn't be playing for Ireland and would get little or no support from those on here.
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Reillers88
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Correct.
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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I remember watching a fan-made video of James McClean "losing possession" an inordinate amount of times in a match towards the end of the last campaign. Can't find it now, but it was complete and utter clickbait. The stuff they were counting as "lost possession" was literally making me laugh in how vindictive it was. Little of it was the simple pass gone wayward and poor touch that you would expect from such an assertively titled video; much of it was stuff like a ball being thundered out of play with a poor pass and McClean desperately trying, and failing, to keep it in. Similar hit pieces could be made on several players but he's just an easy target for some people's ire. He should be dropped IMO but some people go overboard with the criticism. There are problems all over the pitch and in the management of the players. It's not all on McClean's shoulders. I simply think he has the kind of attitude where getting dropped will have the desired impact whereas it would affect others in a different, more negative, way.
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32741 |
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Alan kernaghan for example. But even if he had the personality of say a Harry after or Stephen hunt. We will say anglophiles. I think there are many who defend him and love him as his politics are aligned with theirs. The same way there are some who don’t look beyond his politics and personality and don’t give him any slack.
I would say he has been a lad who has tried for Ireland with average ability and has made a very good career for himself but we need to move on from him if we want to do well as he is ill disciplined in the tackle and with the ball and gives it away far too much.
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AKA pedantic kunt
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9540 |
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Is Stephen Hunt an anglophile? There was me thinking he couldn't become more dislikeable.
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We're decent enough..
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