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cardwizzard
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Its this type of post at McClean that is full of sh*te, snide and personal dig. Duff 100caps 8 goals Roy Keane 67caps 9 goals. Jeff Hendrick 54caps 2 goals Mc Goldrick 14caps 1 goal The list is endless, one thing to say he's not your type of player, doesn't do enough with the ball etc, but to try and break down stats without giving others makes you look like you've an agenda. Especially if he's one of the top goalscorers in the squad even if it is only 10! And 10 goals in 73 games is 1 every 7, same as Stevens except over a bigger spread of games
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inlikeflynn
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You can’t deny that, under Michael O’Neill, James is doing better than he has done in years.
Looking at his entire ireland career statistics is not very useful, in my opinion. Based on his club career this season, could he give us an edge? Only a lunatic would say no!
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Left foot
Ray Houghton Joined: 16 Aug 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Its this type of post at McClean that is full of sh*te, snide and personal dig. Duff 100caps 8 goals Roy Keane 67caps 9 goals. Jeff Hendrick 54caps 2 goals Mc Goldrick 14caps 1 goal The list is endless, one thing to say he's not your type of player, doesn't do enough with the ball etc, but to try and break down stats without giving others makes you look like you've an agenda. Especially if he's one of the top goalscorers in the squad even if it is only 10! And 10 goals in 73 games is 1 every 7, same as Stevens except over a bigger spread of games
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Erm... I did say 10 goals was a decent return.. no? Snide and personal dig? I just said he wasnt irreplaceable, I made no personal remarks. I didn't offer comparisons in stats but I wasnt trying to compare mcclean with anyone only suggest that Stevens could be quite good in a more advanced roll if mcclean is not available. I dont think mccleans contribution compares to that of Duff or Keane (goals scored or not.) I personally dont feel mcclean makes ireland a better team but his goals are often seen as justification for his inclusion, I was suggesting that maybe that's not the case. I agree with a lot on here that he'd be a very good impact sub Edited by Left foot - 14 Feb 2020 at 10:49pm |
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Duff did f**k all for Ireland for years and years, yet he was immune from criticism.
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cardwizzard
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And my mistake, Stevens has never scored for us
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doherty
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Aaah im not sure about that, he was always pretty decent in a green shirt.
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pre Madonna
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Bollocks! He didn’t beat a man for 8 years after Spain! I would say the most overrated player to play for us.
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doherty
Jack Charlton Teenage Kicks, so hard to beat Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Status: Offline Points: 7574 |
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Your wrong there anyway cause that title should go to Coleman. Ya i said it. I dont agree with ya on duffer though.
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Jebediah Springfield
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Duff was over rated - ah come on! The negativity has gone to new levels completely ffs.
Edited by Jebediah Springfield - 14 Feb 2020 at 11:34pm |
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Left foot
Ray Houghton Joined: 16 Aug 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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If anything we relied on Duff too much to work the ball forward in the end it made us more predictable.
Edited by Left foot - 15 Feb 2020 at 12:09am |
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deise316
Moderator Group Don't ask me about car warranty Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Location: The Déise Status: Offline Points: 10921 |
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All well & good, but Mick will probably ignore the claims of Robinson, young Doherty, Maguire and any other attacking player you care to name, and replace McClean with Hendrick on the left wing with 3 other CM's already in the team, leaving us with McGoldrick and the right winger (possibly a recall for Long) as our only attackers. Failing that, as another poster already said, we'll pick an injured McClean, crutches, protective boot, cast & all, regardless. For all McClean's faults, and there are many of them, nobody else is really doing much playing in that position at club level. We'd have a few strikers/forwards that could possibly play there, but Mick wouldn't trust them to defend corners (Maguire defending a corner- I think not) O'Dowda is only getting an odd run here & there and hasn't really done anything recently to justify his place in the squad, never mind the team, Brady isn't playing at all, Robinson more suited to the other side etc. Unless Connolly starts getting a few for Brighton in the next few weeks, I'd nearly be certain we'll play with a CM out of position on the left V Slovakia. While steadfastly ignoring the fact we have one of the best left sided attacking players in the league available to us if he was flexible enough to change formation. |
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Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.....
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Left foot
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@deise316
This is exactly the point! Our two best players are a left wing back and a right wing back, we'll play one in a less effective position at left back and the othe wont play at all.
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Roberto Baggio
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Ah come on
When did Enda Stevens become one of our two best players
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t_rAndy
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He has been great for Sheffield I am not sure of the best way to judge players other than lets say I am Jurgen klopp, and I need to take a pick, I reckon it's either stevens or Doherty that's gets chosen to join this liverpool team.
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Green Devil
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Perhaps, but the argument can be made that over the years even when McClean was having a torrid time at club level he was still getting selected and starting constantly for us even though it wasn't always down to other players not being in form or whatever either. One major problem a lot of Irish fans have is that many never factor in the amount of minutes replaceable players in our team like Whelan, McClean (just two examples for argument sake) etc play for us even when they under perform in a couple of games on the trot. Callum Robinson could start against Slovakia as could McClean, even if neither had any impact on the game you could bet your last euro that if one player was to make way for the Bosnia/Northern Ireland game it would be Robinson. Again Robinson is just a random example. I'm just not really sure how fans can expect players like Robinson, Maguire, Doherty, Browne etc to have a really positive impact in an Ireland shirt when they're not being given a clear run of 4/5 games in a row from the start to find their feet. There are only a handful of Ireland players currently who should be assured of their place in that team, the backline to a point picks itself depending on formation (I would have Doherty in ahead of Coleman if we were going with a back 5) none of our midfielders be it wingers/centre midfielders should be guaranteed their place and as much as I like McGoldrick his lack of goals at both club and international level mean he should be under pressure to keep his jersey, but I would rather he started because he's playing well despite not scoring.
Edited by Green Devil - 15 Feb 2020 at 1:19am |
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fochie
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How did it get to this. A championship player 21st in the league will be missed.How fcuked up is that?I hope you are enjoying your settlement loot John Delaney.
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Left foot
Ray Houghton Joined: 16 Aug 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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That's right Cardwizzard, a left winger will generally score more than a left back ffs
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cardwizzard
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And its you looking to replace McClean with him
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