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    Posted: 21 Nov 2021 at 9:12am
we made cyprus look like brazil on steroids that day
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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Saw a post on foot.ie where someone was defending Staunton's reign and comparing it favourably to Kenny's. Another person responded that Kenny had an abundance of riches, listing the starters and substitutes in the infamous loss to Cyprus as an example.

When you look at the team that started, there wasn't a single proper midfielder in it for a start, unless you count Stephen Ireland, and he was more of a ten. Jonathan Douglas was the only out and out midfielder involved, and he came off the bench.

In hindsight, it was a really bizarre, disjointed, looking team on paper that day.


There was a lot of that, shoehorning players in just to get them all into the team. O'Shea played everywhere but CB that campaign. LB, RB & MF.
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Saw a post on foot.ie where someone was defending Staunton's reign and comparing it favourably to Kenny's. Another person responded that Kenny had an abundance of riches, listing the starters and substitutes in the infamous loss to Cyprus as an example.

When you look at the team that started, there wasn't a single proper midfielder in it for a start, unless you count Stephen Ireland, and he was more of a ten. Jonathan Douglas was the only out and out midfielder involved, and he came off the bench.

In hindsight, it was a really bizarre, disjointed, looking team on paper that day.
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Stan was the wrong man at the wrong time no doubt, but he was badly let down by some high profile players.  I saw the Cyprus 5-2 goals again recently and some of the defending was abysmal, by some supposed top defenders including O'Shea.  
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Staunton was some player for both club & country. He was elite level. Hate that he became this maligned figure because he was thrown in the manager role by that gobsh*te delaney. He should never have been offered the role.
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Rather read about what a great player he was.
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As bad as things are right now, it was far worst under Staunton. Stan had a far higher calibre of players to pick from where as now we are plainly lacking in players of the quality of Kevin Doyle, never mind Robbie Keane. 

Kenny’s earned the right to be Ireland boss with his track record in LOI and the U21s. Staunton was a complete novice with zero experience who go the job due to being a golfing buddy of John Delaney (allegedly). No comparison 
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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Maybe we are just unlucky with managers with the name Stephen / Steve
 
Hang on as i look up Steveis

This one's free at the moment. Surprisingly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_McClaren
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[QUOTE=Claret Murph] Maybe we are just unlucky with managers with the name Stephen / Steve
 
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No.

I always think the marker here is that in spite of finishing third, IIRC were were out of contention for qualifying with three rounds of games to go (two for us). Wales and Slovakia outscored us, and without Ireland's late goal in San Marino we would have finished joint 5th, and without Finnan's late goal in Dublin against Cyprus we would have finished 4th. 

Trappatoni was let go for a similar performance in 2013. But since the mid 1980s we always went into the last round of games with something to play for. This was an exception, and even with new and young players around, and a spine, the games against the likes of Cyprus raised enough questions.
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Stan did have Keane, Duff, Given, O'Shea Finnan 5 excellent players in their prime.

Plus players like Carr, Kilbane, Dunne, Doyle etc


Stop bring facts into this Lassie ffs 




Some amount of revisionist bollox from the Anti SK brigade. Ignoring the players that were at Stans disposal.  


I'd they're secretly hoping for a loss tonight


Just tó clarify I'm pro Kenny. 

Despite results we've played well. As mcclean said though we need to capitalise on opponents mistakes which we aren't at the moment 


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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Stan did have Keane, Duff, Given, O'Shea Finnan 5 excellent players in their prime.

Plus players like Carr, Kilbane, Dunne, Doyle etc


Stop bring facts into this Lassie ffs 




Some amount of revisionist bollox from the Anti SK brigade. Ignoring the players that were at Stans disposal.  


I'd they're secretly hoping for a loss tonight


Just tó clarify I'm pro Kenny. 

Despite results we've played well. As mcclean said though we need to capitalise on opponents mistakes which we aren't at the moment 


Wasn't aimed at you lassie Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Stan did have Keane, Duff, Given, O'Shea Finnan 5 excellent players in their prime.

Plus players like Carr, Kilbane, Dunne, Doyle etc


Stop bring facts into this Lassie ffs 




Some amount of revisionist bollox from the Anti SK brigade. Ignoring the players that were at Stans disposal.  


I'd they're secretly hoping for a loss tonight


Just tó clarify I'm pro Kenny. 

Despite results we've played well. As mcclean said though we need to capitalise on opponents mistakes which we aren't at the moment 
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Our expectations were a lot higher with Stan took over, we had a fairly good squad that looking back on you would snap your hand off ya for it now. At the time, a top 2 was kind of seen as the measuring of success or failure but we were a distant 3rd and Cyprus took 4 points from us. San Marino nearly getting a result off us was seeing as just as embarrassing.  

Times have changed a lot and I think a similar set of results probably would buy you a second campaign 


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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Stan did have Keane, Duff, Given, O'Shea Finnan 5 excellent players in their prime.

Plus players like Carr, Kilbane, Dunne, Doyle etc


Stop bring facts into this Lassie ffs 




Some amount of revisionist bollox from the Anti SK brigade. Ignoring the players that were at Stans disposal.  


I'd they're secretly hoping for a loss tonight


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