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Green Devil 
Robbie Keane 
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Ya shouldnt need to wait until your 21 to decide if your Irish its a privilege |
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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Stoked Up
Jack Charlton
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Your post implies that you have a problem with third generation Irish declaring for us? Why? |
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Trap junior
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 3:46pm |
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Yes I mean O'Hara. No problem with any generation.
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horsebox
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 3:54pm |
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Re:Green.
He came on board discreetly and earner his place in the squad. None of this sh*te going to the media etc and kept his mouth shut.
Not a massive fan of him myself but you cant question his commitment or his character. (only his ability
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When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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Ireland4ever
Ray Houghton
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Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 4:04pm |
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Dont think 3rd generation are eligible, stops at granparents doesnt it?
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Jack Charlton
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Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 4:10pm |
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Huh?
First generation - born in Ireland Second generation - parent born in Ireland Third generation - grandparent born in Ireland |
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t_rAndy
Robbie Keane
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The thing is, what happens if you didn't know you were good enough to play international football before you were 21, you were a late developer. Then you are 25 and second generation irish but you haven't informed FIFA before then you want to play for Ireland Edited by t_rAndy - 09 Mar 2011 at 4:38pm |
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henry shefflin
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maybe change back the rule once you play at any age for a country thats it?i know we wouldnt have clark then,but they have to do something or this will become a farce!of course the fai could just say o,hara and penant are not welcome we are not been used as 2nd choice!
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 5:08pm |
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Re : Horsebox
Look Green shouldnt be put in a position to play , he did well in the summer friendly"s but was shown up against Armenia??? Paul Green hasnt said he dreamed of playing for us , he hasnt said he grew up with green , white and gold running through his vains and that Liam Brady was his hero just so fans would warm to him which he should be commended for that
 ...But ability aside he went about it the right way , Pennant has gone about it totally the wrong way about it...Jamie O"Hara "rejected" a call up he had his chance
 Ciaran Clarke switched from England to Ireland in a heart-beat
Now im not a genius but whether or not you"ve grown up in Ireland as fully Irish or in England for arguement sake and you see yourself as English/Irish or Irish/English , you get offered a chance to play international football with the country of your family can you give the same commitment as you would for England??? Townsend , Aldo , Lawerence , McCarthy , Kilbane etc etc all did so whether or not these guys all grew up cheering and dreaming of playing for Ireland is prob 50-50 , Pennant a mercenary we dont need him or O"Hara even though if they had the right attitude towards us id take them....But now no??? Edited by Green Devil - 09 Mar 2011 at 5:19pm |
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Ireland4ever
Ray Houghton
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Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 6:26pm |
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I thought it was
1st Generation irish - Born to irish parents outside of ireland
Suppose it doesnt really make a diff, but is it grandparents as far as yo can go back to represent ireland?
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skylarking
Kevin Kilbane 
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Posted: 09 Mar 2011 at 11:52pm |
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This is correct. Irish and Ireland both have capital letters btw, fixed that for ya  |
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scottyccfc
Liam Brady
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Just a point here, you cant really compare the Houghton/Sheedy/Townsend situation with Pennant/O'Hara/Clarke! For one the media hype wasnt as big, who is to say that Townsend didnt take 4/5 months to decide? We didnt have a forum where know-it-alls knew the inside line or "knew" the family. How about McAteer, he did say he was eligible for 2-3 nations and took time to think about it, he went on to sccre one of the most important goals in Irish history. People need to take a step back and realise there is no loyalty in football, there hasnt been for 20-30 years!
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Trap junior
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 2:31am |
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Jack went to see Aldridge playing for oxford utd. He knew he had an irish grandparent. Meanwhile during the game he learned that Houghton was also eligible and was impressed because he had a good game. Straight after the game Jack went to see them downstairrs. Jack said 'John would you like to play for Ireland?' Aldridge said ''I'd be delighted!'' Houghton was the same. They didnt fanny about and if they had Jack would have told them where to go. Since Ive been on here all I hear from tuff is O'Hara needs to sort stuff out or he has his reasons or there is paperwork. Blah blah blah. 1 year later still no decision. During this time of indecision O'Hara decided to take on the role of the head of 'England Fans' club during the world cup.This O'Hara chap has made his bed. Now he can lie in it.
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Posted: 10 Mar 2011 at 2:58am |
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So much shooting the messenger on here it cracks me up and so much bitterness. Do you all live in Cork?
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Waka waka hey hey, we're in Armenia!
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scottyccfc
Liam Brady
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Do who all live in Cork?
Edit: You know what Im fed up of you having a go at Cork all the time, thats the third time now, Ive let it go but enough is enough I will bite. Does it matter where I live or where Im from? At least I still live here I suppose, I didnt turn my back on this place unlike some! Edited by scottyccfc - 10 Mar 2011 at 4:01am |
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Pretty poor comment, plenty left as there was fcuk all work here at the time, something that the present generation will be experiencing unfortunately
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Liam Brady
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Yeah I saw Red, point taken.
I will say if he can give out smart comments about Cork and its people we can give just as much back! He shouldnt be making comments like that! And yes I shouldnt either!
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i left because i wanted to ! and the young irish kids over here in london are doing well from what i can see , hard to feel sorry for them , its fellas my age stuck with massive mortgages at home i feel sorry for..
but again the rules are the rules , pennant qualifies , its up to trap to pick him , fellas coming on here talking about pride... oh dear....
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Surprised the "Granny Rule" is so relaxed really when you think about it....I was calling for Stephen Ireland to be brought back in if he changed his attitude and retracted his comments , but it didnt go down to well even though he is one of our own and he is a very good player!!! Id never question any players commitment to the Irish side until he"s been given a proper chance , the difference in case"s of Lawerence ala Pennant without seeing him don the Irish Jersey before his international career even could take flight with us , he"s f**ked himself up already with his comments he"s doing it for the wrong reasons....
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