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Good squad on paper? Massive fan base, decent stadium etc?
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Goodness only found out an hour ago they went down .
Not sure what to say really , now i can understand Mags fans having a pop but as for others well it's hurts when you go down only the rivals have fun with it the rest, well better them than us kind of thing . 
They will be a massive draw next season just like Man City were a while ago when they were down there , they will find there level and that is a premiership club .
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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Goodness only found out an hour ago they went down .
Not sure what to say really , now i can understand Mags fans having a pop but as for others well it's hurts when you go down only the rivals have fun with it the rest, well better them than us kind of thing . 
They will be a massive draw next season just like Man City were a while ago when they were down there , they will find there level and that is a premiership club .
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Originally posted by Sono Sono wrote:

what the hell was Chris Coleman thinking taking on this job, absolutely crazy move at the time and looks an even bigger fool now. 



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Was surprised at the time he took Sunderland as he probably would've got better offers.
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

[QUOTE=Sono]what the hell was Chris Coleman thinking taking on this job, absolutely crazy move at the time and looks an even bigger fool now. 



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Was surprised at the time he took Sunderland as he probably would've got better offers in the championship.


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I think the reason people have a chip on their shoulder about Sunderland and McClean is because he has gone on record to state that the club hung him out to dry.
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Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Good squad on paper? Massive fan base, decent stadium etc?

I'd love to know what squad sheet he looked at when he took over. 
I saw a thin bare squad from which the leftovers were washed up and overpaid footballers who wasn't pursued by other clubs because they're simply not good enough for the level required which has been exactly the case.

Sunderland's player of the year is someone who left us 6 month ago to join Aston Villa, that's how rancid it's been LOL


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A good manager can put all those players together, organise them and get them to at least compete.

Coleman is a very poor manager, whose Wales career has been propped up by Bale.

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Agree with you HB. 

I called for a proper 4-5-1 Manager who would make us proper boring to watch but also extremely frustrating to play against.

Can't remember if I actually mentioned any names, can't be bothered to check back, but I do remember being gutted when we turned to Coleman.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

A good manager can put all those players together, organise them and get them to at least compete.

Coleman is a very poor manager, whose Wales career has been propped up by Bale.

And Ramsey. You're correct in what you are saying.
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Coleman's record as Wales manager is actually quite ordinary. Between June 2015 and July 2016 Wales has some excellent results, but either side of that wasn't great. In Dublin last year, apart from S.Coleman, Randolph and Walters, it would be hard to argue that on paper any of their players wouldn't walk into our starting team that night. But they were very poor for what was on show and hardly created any chances, and the game in October was an equally poor showing.

MON has actually achieved more impressive results. 
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Which made it more embarrassing for us that we appointed someone who got tactically outclassed by a dinosaur 
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by Sono Sono wrote:

what the hell was Chris Coleman thinking taking on this job, absolutely crazy move at the time and looks an even bigger fool now. 



+1 

Was surprised at the time he took Sunderland as he probably would've got better offers.
 
 
Yea I'm surprised he didn't hang on for a EPL job such as the Swansea one.
 
As for his thinking behind taking the SAFC managers job perhaps one of his best mates in football Kevin Ball being at the SOL might have been a big influence for him?    


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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

They will be a massive draw next season just like Man City were a while ago when they were down there , they will find there level and that is a premiership club.

You would imagine they would be but...
Stoke had just moved into their new ground -in expectation of becoming a premier league side - then unfortunately went the other way out of the championship, when they got relegated in 1999 to the third tier. 
However, many of the home fans didn't bother turning up to see the lesser lights. 12/13k was a very good average attendance in that division, but the ground was often only a third full for the visits of the likes of Bury, Swindon or Oldham, etc. I thought Stoke would come straight back up given their far superior budget to most of their then rivals, but it took four seasons of playoff heartbreak to get promoted.

Best of luck DM for next season. Hopefully the club will be better run in the near future and the fans stick by their team.


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Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

They will be a massive draw next season just like Man City were a while ago when they were down there , they will find there level and that is a premiership club.

You would imagine they would be but...
Stoke had just moved into their new ground -in expectation of becoming a premier league side - then unfortunately went the other way out of the championship, when they got relegated in 1999 to the third tier. 
However, many of the home fans didn't bother turning up to see the lesser lights. 12/13k was a very good average attendance in that division, but the ground was often only a third full for the visits of the likes of Bury, Swindon or Oldham, etc. I thought Stoke would come straight back up given their far superior budget to most of their then rivals, but it took four seasons of playoff heartbreak to get promoted.

Best of luck DM for next season. Hopefully the club will be better run in the near future and the fans stick by their team.


 
 
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What big names are likely to leave? Any contracts expired?
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

What big names are likely to leave? Any contracts expired?
I'd imagine relegation release clauses will be at the heart of the majority of their departures.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

What big names are likely to leave? Any contracts expired?
 
 
Theres a load out of contract this Summer JOS is probably the most high profile of them.
 
Eight out of contract in 2019 including Rodwell who is supposed to be getting his wages reduced from £70k a week to £40k next season?
 
Five out of contract in 2020
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