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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Hearts relegated, revolutionary manager Daniel Stendel on the brink and fans running around like headless neanderthals. Couldn't happen to a nicer shower of dickflops.  Meanwhile old Glenn is at Fleetwood - a better club in a better league . . .  and looking forward to the Euros! Suck it up. 

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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

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Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. 

So would a Glasgow Celtic patriot be a British scoundrel or an Irish scoundrel? 
A 'Glasgow Celtic patriot' is a contradiction in terms. There is no country called Glasgow Celtic, nor disputed territory. 
If you want  to try and  be a ****, at least be able to get it out right.LOL
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

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Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. 

So would a Glasgow Celtic patriot be a British scoundrel or an Irish scoundrel? 
A 'Glasgow Celtic patriot' is a contradiction in terms. There is no country called Glasgow Celtic, nor disputed territory. 
If you want  to try and  be a ****, at least be able to get it out right.LOL
It's a rhetorical Celtic patriot. Anyway, you should be deliriously happy after winning the SPL duopoly for the zillionth time and not calling me obscene names. Brother Walfrid will be ropable. 

FOI: Apparently, the influx of Irish and Scottish to fight in the American Civil War were called Celtic Patriots. Some were even from Glasgow, imagine that. But scoundrels all.
Yes, but were they called Glasgow Celtic patriots? For that is a very different thing, as it is possible to have Celtic nationalism and patriotism.  I'm also aware of the Celtic Patriots, but thanks.

FOI: it hasn't been called the SPL in some time.

FFOI: I didn't call you an obscene name

FFFOI: What the f**k does 'FOI' mean?
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How is it a typo? That makes no sense at all!LOL
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

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How is it a typo? That makes no sense at all!LOL

Get over it. Go back to celebrating.  
I need things explained to me, always. It's a form of OCD. Now; how is that a typo? 
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

How is it a typo? That makes no sense at all!LOL

Get over it. Go back to celebrating.  
I need things explained to me, always. It's a form of OCD. Now; how is that a typo? 
FYI: Have been dealing with the obtuse FOI office of late. It was a slip and not a rab. Get over it. 
But 'o' is nowhere near 'y'. So you are saying that you're an idiot, but we had already established that. 
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

How is it a typo? That makes no sense at all!LOL

Get over it. Go back to celebrating.  
I need things explained to me, always. It's a form of OCD. Now; how is that a typo? 
FYI: Have been dealing with the obtuse FOI office of late. It was a slip and not a rab. Get over it. 
But 'o' is nowhere near 'y'. So you are saying that you're an idiot, but we had already established that. 
Suffering Jazus!
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Missed out on a return to the championship tonight.
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Missed out on a return to the championship tonight.


Have to say I watched both legs of the play off and was really expecting more from him at that level.he was tidy in his passing but he just kept the ball moving (sideways mostly) and he never got above a trot in both games.

Also fleetwood deserved noting from either tie...they gave away some awful goals but were also robbed of two peons in both games.
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Originally posted by JUICEBOMB JUICEBOMB wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Missed out on a return to the championship tonight.


Have to say I watched both legs of the play off and was really expecting more from him at that level.he was tidy in his passing but he just kept the ball moving (sideways mostly) and he never got above a trot in both games.

Also fleetwood deserved noting from either tie...they gave away some awful goals but were also robbed of two peons in both games.
 
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Tbf the type of player he is he could move to LSL and he wouldn't be running rings around people. He does what he does well...We've seen him for 15 years odd now surely you know what he does at this stage!
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Not sure why its surprising. Whelan's the sort of player who'll perform the same way no matter what level you put him at. You could put him in the Conference and he wouldn't dominate the game, he'd still take possession and just move it on as he always does.
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He's doing what his role involves.

Not sure why a holding midfielder would dominate a game
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

He's doing what his role involves.

Not sure why a holding midfielder would dominate a game

Because as you drop down the levels, typically your overall game will be so superior to the opposition that you will be able to dictate the pace of the game. The idea that just because you're a "holding midfielder" means you literally don't have to do anything other than "hold" is part of the reason Whelan has thrived in an Irish midfield for a decade. By doing nothing other than the bare minimum of what his position requires, he's convinced a significant number of people that it would actually be impossible for anyone in his position to do more than that bare minimum. Quite a trick.
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Not a lot changes as you play further down the divisions, you could argue it will get a lot more physical but the concept is still the same.

No doubt the quality of opposition will be more noticeable too.



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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

He's doing what his role involves.

Not sure why a holding midfielder would dominate a game


Because as you drop down the levels, typically your overall game will be so superior to the opposition that you will be able to dictate the pace of the game. The idea that just because you're a "holding midfielder" means you literally don't have to do anything other than "hold" is part of the reason Whelan has thrived in an Irish midfield for a decade. By doing nothing other than the bare minimum of what his position requires, he's convinced a significant number of people that it would actually be impossible for anyone in his position to do more than that bare minimum. Quite a trick.


In fairness to Whelan from 2008 on he played over 450 games at International, premier league and championship level for Ireland, Stoke City and Aston Villa. He averaged 35 Premier League appearances a year for Stoke over nearly a decade as a "holding midfielder" and only scored 5 goals so he literally probably just did the job that he was told to do.

The only people Whelan "convinced" he could do the role better than him are the managers at Stoke City , Aston Villa and Ireland who looked at him and thought he must be doing something right in it!! Managers pick teams not fans and i hope that any of our current crop of new young midfielders coming thru under Stephen Kenny go on next year to either get promotion with their clubs or get moves to premier league clubs and then go on to make 35 plus PL appearances a season over the next 9 years.

We would be in great shape if we could get 8-10 of our best 15 players playing at that level on a regular basis.

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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

He's doing what his role involves.

Not sure why a holding midfielder would dominate a game

Because as you drop down the levels, typically your overall game will be so superior to the opposition that you will be able to dictate the pace of the game. The idea that just because you're a "holding midfielder" means you literally don't have to do anything other than "hold" is part of the reason Whelan has thrived in an Irish midfield for a decade. By doing nothing other than the bare minimum of what his position requires, he's convinced a significant number of people that it would actually be impossible for anyone in his position to do more than that bare minimum. Quite a trick.
That's a cheap attack on Glenn Whelan - the most gutless, tacky sledge on an Irish international I've ever read. To allege his international career was based on a "trick" as he performed the "bare minimum" is truly atrocious, especially from someone who climbs high moral ground with such agility. 

No one will record Whelan's career in green as iconic, no one will describe him as a high achiever, but your senseless, nauseous bashing of a solid professional and a decent bloke is rancid to the core. I find it hard to believe that you - who takes such a comprehensive interest in the careers and progress of so many Irish players abroad - could stoop so low and unload such a diatribe against one of our most loyal servants. A truly awful post.

Nothing gutless about it. It's an explanation as to why Whelan doesn't stand out at lower levels, as you might expect from a man who has so much experience at higher levels. 

When I say Whelan does "the bare minimum", that is not insinuating that he is lazy, merely that he is risk averse in the extreme. He takes an incredibly narrow definition of what the holding midfielders job is, and then executes that particular interpretation. Due to this cautiousness he rarely, if ever, strays from this role, and consequently his performances look pretty much the same no matter who he's playing against. It could be Andorra, it could be Austria, he'll do the same thing. That is my point.
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Originally posted by irelandshirts irelandshirts wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

He's doing what his role involves.

Not sure why a holding midfielder would dominate a game


Because as you drop down the levels, typically your overall game will be so superior to the opposition that you will be able to dictate the pace of the game. The idea that just because you're a "holding midfielder" means you literally don't have to do anything other than "hold" is part of the reason Whelan has thrived in an Irish midfield for a decade. By doing nothing other than the bare minimum of what his position requires, he's convinced a significant number of people that it would actually be impossible for anyone in his position to do more than that bare minimum. Quite a trick.


In fairness to Whelan from 2008 on he played over 450 games at International, premier league and championship level for Ireland, Stoke City and Aston Villa. He averaged 35 Premier League appearances a year for Stoke over nearly a decade as a "holding midfielder" and only scored 5 goals so he literally probably just did the job that he was told to do.

The only people Whelan "convinced" he could do the role better than him are the managers at Stoke City , Aston Villa and Ireland who looked at him and thought he must be doing something right in it!! Managers pick teams not fans and i hope that any of our current crop of new young midfielders coming thru under Stephen Kenny go on next year to either get promotion with their clubs or get moves to premier league clubs and then go on to make 35 plus PL appearances a season over the next 9 years.

We would be in great shape if we could get 8-10 of our best 15 players playing at that level on a regular basis.

That’s a very good and logical post Irelandshirts. 
So get off this thread and take that fact based knowledge somewhere else.

We have experts on here that know better than premier league and International managers. 

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