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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

I wouldn't call Molumby lightweight, he's very combative.

+1 on that.

Every game I've seen him play he really gets into a tackle. Closes players down very quickly too 
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I would say Mcgoldrick would be a natural number 10...seems to have a lot of ability but lacks a poachers instinct and if we were playing tomorrow he would surely start
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Originally posted by killer kilbane killer kilbane wrote:

I would say Mcgoldrick would be a natural number 10...seems to have a lot of ability but lacks a poachers instinct and if we were playing tomorrow he would surely start

Agreed fully, 

His hold up and link up play are exceptional, now I suppose if we were a side like Spain or Man City who dominate possession and have countless teams defending in a low block against them with 9/10 men behind the ball all the time the likes of McGoldrick for me wouldn't have that in his locker to unlock sides time and time again with these defence splitting passes on a consistent basis. 

But I mean if Obafemi, Idah, Parrott etc properly emerge as starters for whatever clubs they find themselves at in the near future then instead of seeing an effective player like McGoldrick drop out if we're only playing 1 up top I would most definitely like to see him play in the 10.

Now if Jack Byrne can get himself a good side team in a very competitive league he would be ideal, but in the short term McGoldrick would be an excellent option.
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Whatever happened to say a team is defending deep or playing a high line.  What’s all this low block nonsense.  I hear Jose sh*teing on about it too. 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Whatever happened to say a team is defending deep or playing a high line.  What’s all this low block nonsense.  I hear Jose sh*teing on about it too. 

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I find it interesting that people would see Glenn Whelans performances in the last few ireland games comparable to that of world class players.

Realistically it simply isnt true. Switzerland and Denmark where pretty comfortable in the games the played against us in terms of possession, chances created etc but somehow Glenn had the games of his life.

Superlatives such as outstanding, immense thrown about to a player in which the team itself struggled to hold the ball.

Of all the players in the team I think Whelan was the stand out player for ireland but not the best performer on the pitch, he played ok and put in a very good shift. 
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

He's probably played his best football for Ireland in the last 12 months, certainly the home games

I agree he probably played his best for his standards... but when you compare performances to a bench mark it paints a different story.

For example Roy Keanes performance vs Juventus in the champions league semi final was a 9-10.

Richard Dunne vs Russia was a 9-10

Paul McGrath vs Italy was 9-10

Glenn Whelan in the last few games would have been a 3 or 3.5 at best. All hard work but limited quality.

I'm not trying to disrespect Glenn but he was never a 7-10 player and in reality it'll be less difficult to find a successor for him than it has been for the others.

That's just you, Lefty - and myriad others here who only see what they want to see regarding Glenn Whelan. Media ratings for his performances in the vital last two games were:

In the Switzerland defeat:  8 (Mirror), 7 (Indo), 7 (Sun), 7 (Sports J), 6 (Irish Times).
In the final Denmark game: 7.5 (Indo), 7 (RTE), 7 (Mirror), 7 (Sports J), 6 (Sun). 

Your 3 - 3.5? Sorry, but that is disrespectful. 

PS: Good post, Footballman.

Cmon brick. The sun , mirror! Look at the stat that we couldn’t muster 50% possession against any team in the last 10 odd years. Not all whelan fault. But he was playing in the most influential position on the pitch for most of them.


It's a fair cross-section, King_Kenny.  But in the interests of flattening the curve I've adjusted the list to include your ratings.

In the Switzerland defeat:  8 (Mirror), 7 (Indo), 7 (Sun), 7 (Sports J), 6 (Irish Times), 3 (Village Idiot).
In the final Denmark game: 7.5 (Indo), 7 (RTE), 7 (Mirror), 7 (Sports J), 6 (Sun), 3.5 (Village Idiot).


Thanks brick. Even the village idiot has their own opinion. You haven’t reached that level yet!
 


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A lot of differing opinions here which is why we visit a forum. We all feel passionate about irish football but maybe we keep the personal jibes to one side.
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I hope Kenny calls up Glenn for his first squad Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

I hope Kenny calls up Glenn for his first squad Thumbs Up

Haha - the anarchist in me kinda wants it too, this forum would need to scale up its ec2 instances due to the reaction.
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I don't see Kenny picking Whelan. He'd be lucky to make the squad. 

Just out of curiosity I wonder would Kenny even bother with Arter or wait until Arter makes himself available?
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Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Am i unpatriotic because i think a lad going on 37 next birthday is finished at int'l level.
 
Yes. The man has at least another 18 months in him of passing the ball sideways and backwards in games for us that average less than a goal a game.
 
He's been a great servant but if he makes Kenny's squad I'm going to look for trails for the Dublin U20 hurlers next year.
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

I don't see Kenny picking Whelan. He'd be lucky to make the squad. 

Just out of curiosity I wonder would Kenny even bother with Arter or wait until Arter makes himself available?

He'd have to make himself unavailable first.
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Whelan is still the best option Ireland have in that holding role, but only by way of us not being allowed to play anyone else in that position, as the risk is too great.

He does a job... 

I would hope that Kenny would choose -

Molumby 
McCarthy
Cullen
Arter 

All ahead of him.
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

I don't see Kenny picking Whelan. He'd be lucky to make the squad. 

Just out of curiosity I wonder would Kenny even bother with Arter or wait until Arter makes himself available?

I don't see Whelan making the squad either. He should retire. But he's still  irresistible clickbait for the forking sledgers. Can't help themselves. Interesting point about Arter. He has probably never heard of Stephen Kenny and is unlikely to ever meet him.
Of course he hasn't. Stephen Kenny is used to fellas playing at a higher level than Fleetwood Town.


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