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SuperDave84
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Well, either Yaya is right and Pep is a racist and a load of other players are happy to keep their mouths shut, and they are all Uncle Tom type characters, including Leroy Sane, Raheem Sterling, Gabriel Jesus, Fernandinho, Bernard Mendy, Vincent Kompany, Fabian Delph, Eric Abidal, Dani Alves, Samuel Eto'o, Thierry Henry, Dante, Jerome Boateng, David Alaba, Douglas Costa and Kingsley Coman.... Or Yaya "Birthday Cake" Toure, who has a history of being a whiny bitch, is being a whiny bitch again. Tough decision.
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Sligo Hornet
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So it’s 50/50 in your opinion SD ?
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Wallet ?? What the fcuk is that ?
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Roberto Baggio
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Pep is about to spend £60m on an African player
Toure’s made a **** of himself again
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Het-field
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Toure is complaining that his stats would suggest that he should be in the team. Yet, Manchester City, under the guidance of Pep generated a higher points total than any PL team, in winning the league. Toure was involved, but there were other players far more instrumental
Also, Pep immediately disposed of Joe Hart, Samir Nasri as they were not part of his plans, and has let go of players like Zabaleta as their contract came to an end, and they could upgrade. To me, it has always looked like Pep has been willing to sign and sell the players as necessary, and perhaps a 35 year oldplayer is not for the long term?
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irishmufc
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Het-field
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implication has the same effect in defamation.
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irishmufc
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In legal terms? I would assume there's a difference between you publicly accusing someone of being a racist then accusing them of having a bias against 'African players'. It's more an ambiguous term then simply using 'Black players' as Africa is a continent and white people come from there too. Would a judge take into consideration an implication of the term African player as a description for black players? Everybody knows what Toure is implying, just wondering if the implication is enough for legal action by Pep?
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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SuperDave84
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That's enough. Implication and insinuation is enough for defamation.
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Het-field
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The context of the statement would be taken into account, but I think the fact that he alleges that Pep had problems with a specific demographic, regardless of the colour of the skin would be defamatory anyway. It would be a very hard case to defend successfully. But I’d be amazed if Pep would be interested.
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irishmufc
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He's throwing the 'anti-black bias' angle out there but is it a case given the stature of both of them at the club, could it be a case that he'd be advised not to take legal action or that it's not going to result in personal damages anyway given the absurdity of Toure's accusation? Why should Toure be allowed to get away with those potentially damaging comments? What if a black player who played under Pep previously (now playing with another) club did the same?
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Het-field
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Toure is a player who has been told that his services at Manchester City are no longer required. Pep might value this in the same way as an employer might if a ex-employee started tweeting negative words. He may also feel like he doesn’t want to promote something which may result in people drawing conclusions or claiming a lack of smoke without fire. Pep could take a case. What Toure said would be actionable. But Pep may just not want to pursue something like this which would be time consuming, and might be better spent focusing on retaining the PL. The fact that most people on social media appear to be siding with Pep is indicative of the force of Toure’s words |
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SuperDave84
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Exactly. Toure's words are being widely dismissed already. There's little to gain from prolonging attention on it.
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irishmufc
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Cheers lads
I'd assume this is hugely damaging on Toure himself if he ever decided to go into management, punditry/tv work for the EPL/CL games as any potential employer would see him as toxic?
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Het-field
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I think its a very ill advised thing to say, and at very least it shows he is very quick to judge a situation without looking at it in the round. Last month, Phil Foden became the youngest player in PL history to receive a winners medal. De Bruyne is the finest player in the Premier League at the moment. Gundogen played 40 times this year across all competitions. David Silva, an elder statesman, also played 40 times and is on his way to another world cup, in a hotly competitive Spain team. City paid £50 for Bernardo Silva, who has been a revelation. City are full of top midfielders, who have achieved significantly in their relatively short careers.
Yaya is an incredibly decorated player, and at one time he was probably the best in the Premier League. But now he is older, and has been replaced. It happens as teams strive to keep at the top of the game. Players like Lampard, Terry etc were all fans favourites, but eventually the time was right for them to move. Undoubtedly, he could join the revolution at Wolverhampton Wanderers, or he could rejoin Pelligrini at West Ham, or a club like Chelsea, Manchester United or Arsenal may see him as worthy of a one year contract. But Pep has decided that he has come to the end of the line with City, and with his contract concluding there is a natural break in the relationship. As such, it makes this a particularly cheap shot at Pep. If Toure has evidence, he should shed light on it. But its easy to make comments like that when you're on the way out the door, and I think it has only made Toure look bad.
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Gary McKay
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Is it because Im black ?
No Yaya, it's because you're a kunt. |
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Roberto Baggio
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If those quotes are true, then he doesn't just say that Pep has a problem with African players. He brings race into it as well with this line:
"It got to the point I asked myself if it was because of my colour" Terrible claims to make from a man who's been part of kicking racism out of football campaigns, playing the racism card on a manager who didn't play him much as he was done. Edited by Roberto Baggio - 05 Jun 2018 at 8:45am |
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Het-field
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I'm generally not a fan of the use of the term "race card", but in this case it seems entirely appropriate.
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Roberto Baggio
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More from the crazy agent now:
Dimitri Seluk (ag. Yaya Touré) to Sport24: "God sees everything. As a man who acted with Yaya, a legend of the club, which under different pretexts did not give the opportunity to go on the pitch ... Pep turned Africa against himself, many African fans turned away from City." Seluk: "And I’m sure that many African shamans in the future will not allow Guardiola to win the Champions League. This will be for Guardiola an African curse. Life will show whether I am right or not." Seluk: "Nothing good can be said about the human qualities of Pep Guardiola. You can start with the fact that he came to Manchester City in a nasty way. The transfer was announced at a time when Pellegrini was still at the helm of the team." Seluk: "If you assign my grandmother to Bayern Munich, the team will still become the champions! There's a consistency with Guardiola's choice: go to clubs with a huge budget, which without him become champions all the time." Seluk: "Yaya has many offers from different countries, ready to pay a lot of money, but we decided to dedicate the next season to Guardiola. And to prove and show the fans of City that Yaya is not finished. He is full of energy and wants to play next season in England." Seluk: "At a time when big sums are being paid, I officially declare that Yaya is ready to move as a free agent to any English club in the top six with a salary of £1 pound a week. But with a bonus system based on certain successes." |
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