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irishmufc
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+1 Stephen Hawking is a better option than Sammon. The only thing I did see him do was a nice lay off for Robbie to score against the Faroes (I think) |
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Lenny82
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Sammon actually did alright when he came on against Chelsea at the weekend. That said, he is feckin brutal and nowhere near international standard.
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Madferret
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Scored again today. Afaik thats 8 in the league so far He's on track to have his best season in terms of goals/games ratio since he left Waterford Utd. Do people think he deserves a call-up to at least an International friendly/training camp? I think if Cox, Keogh and Sammon are getting call-ups, then this guy might deserve another shot? Ipswich could be vital for Ireland.
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Pipkin
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KEane, Long, Walters are the only strikers that are guaranteed. There's little between the rest of them
Cox, Stokes, Murphy, Doyle probably vying for either 1 or 2 spots in a 23 man squad and Murphy is the only 1 scoring...
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Madferret
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Slightly off topic, but now that you raised it, Is Walters guaranteed a place EVERY game? Is Long guaranteed? Is even Robbie guaranteed? I'm not sure I'd agree with your assessment there. Now, I wouldn't know Martin O'Neill if he landed in me dinner, but he strikes me as a bloke who doesn't suffer fools gladly nor do I think does he feel the need to simply follow on from what went before. In other words, he is his own man. Did he not even intimate in so many words in one of his press conferences already that there were no guaranteed positions, even for Robbie. He seemed at least to infer that, clean slate, call ups on merit, etc.
If Murphy keeps scoring regularly, imo he should at least be invited to a training camp for more closer assessment to see could he do a job for us. Pick players on form,fitness, ability and committment and nothing else. Edited by Madferret - 25 Jan 2014 at 10:19pm |
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Pipkin
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Well Those 3 players I mentioned are in a different league (excuse the pun) to the rest. They are far superior footballers and anyone that knows anything about our players would have all 3 in the squad guaranteed at this present time which is what we're talking about? Id be surprised if anyone could make a legitimate case for the likes of Murphy or Doyle to be ahead of any of those 3 in the pecking order currently
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Madferret
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Yes, currently it could be argued, but that position is not held in stone beyond even next week.
I'm not genuinely trying to be pedantic, but you used the word guaranteed at least once. My understanding of that term is a legitimate expectation of certainty that such an outcome will re-occur and continue into the future. I'm arguing against certainty. I'm saying, pick the players no matter who they are, based on form, fitness , ability and committment and no other criteria. That "uncertainty" over whose in and whose out will create it's own natural and necessary competition. We need to encourage that ethos even at International Level. You appear at least, to rate "ability" head and shoulders over the other three criteria I have suggested. But what use is an "able" footballer if he doesn't also demonstrate form, fitness and committment. Probably only the likes of Messi or Ronaldo can get away with the "ability" criteria alone, and even then not forever. Not Guaranteed. Do you see what I'm arguing? It's actually counterproductive and divisive to single out and identify any one individual as Guaranteed their position. That wouldn't be done in a team working together in a business. Why should it be done in a football team?
I've the height of respect for what Robbie has achieved in the game and his contribution to Ireland and I don't wish to see him retire from International Football just yet. We'll probably not see such a prolific striker wearing the green again in our lifetimes. But I stop short of what you appear to be advocating that he should be guaranteed his position. No Sir, I don't like it! Edited by Madferret - 25 Jan 2014 at 11:16pm |
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Pipkin
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Fitness and commitment are givens They dont have any competitors for those places as the rest of the strikers are playing in lower standard leagues and not setting the world alight. We know that Stokes/Cox etc. are not as good as Long, Walters, Keane. I don't see what is up for debate. Do you think that any of those 3 will not make the next squad?
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Stillhuntinghenry
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Id have stokes ahead of the chasing pack but id consider Murphy to be more of the ilk of cox, Doyle, keogh etc. it depends how MON sees it too as he may consider Walters to be a midfielder as he plays wide for Stoke quite a lot. That being said given MON's use of a big man up front over the years I suspect he'll see Walters as a striker. You would think Murphy would be ahead of that chasing pack on form and goals score and of course the Roy factor but this may only be enough for a standby spot.
Of course all this could change come may but if the squad was picked tomorrow there could probably be little complaints if he were the other striker. Personally I'd like to see us start integrating some young lads around the squads in these friendlies so a cheeky call up for Patrick Bamford would show some ambition on the FAI's part. |
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Madferret
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Another winner today Think that's 10 now this season. The most in-form Irish striker at present??
This Lad deserves some decent game-time on Wednesday. Keane won't be around and anyway we already know what he & Long, etc can offer.
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Green Devil
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Goal today!
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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Madferret
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This guy can't stop himself scoring at this stage
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good header from the Murph.
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Green Devil
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Noway near international standard though, it's a pity.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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Pipkin
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That doesn't mean that he is nowhere near good enough for our squad. Doyle, Cox, Keogh, Stokes and Murphy are all around the same level and vying for either 1 or 2 remaining striker spots after Long, Walters and Keane. And on current form Murphy is the one scoring so he deserves to be in the squad IMO.
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JAVIER
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i agree with you but stokes is better played good his football at CL this term, and he can operates as left or right forward or winger if needed he is a versatile forward,
I would like Best and this sensational youngster Ronan Murray to get chances they are on fire atm |
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