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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Same as that! Not even a dodgy guess from HITC or the like.
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Gary McKay
Roy Keane Yo Adrian Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 13816 |
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I wonder what they think of the DFAI.
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Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39772 |
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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If you had seat a bench, I'd have laughed. It lost something in the explanation.
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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What international managers in history have got a team of such average ability as this current Ireland team playing attractive, successful football?
Has it ever really happened? Has a manager been able to turn donkeys into thoroughbreds? I'm trying to think of European teams who have punched above their weight in my lifetime. Sweden are consistently useful, but they don't tend to play a pretty style. Even when they had Larsson and Ibrahimovic they didn't. Norway got up to, I think, 2nd in the world rankings in the 1990s. But they played a horrible style which made our lads look like technical geniuses from the Balkans. Speaking of which, Croatia. Balkan football consistently produces technically gifted players, it has always been their culture. Croatia punch above their weight because they consistently punch above their weight in terms of producing gifted footballers. They play a beautiful style because they produce beautiful players. We don't. Romania and Bulgaria both had a load of gifted players when they were successsful at World Cups playing an attractive style. Even in Genoa in 1990, the gap in real class was very apparent. The Swiss have been punching above their weight for much of the last 25 years. But they're generally puke to watch. Portugal have much more gifted players than us. They're generally not great to watch. Dour, defensive. Greece of course punched above their weight more than anybody. They were awful to watch. The international equivalent of Rangers' run to the 2008 UEFA Cup final, except they won their final. Iceland - dreadful to watch. Getting the very most from themselves, but they're absolute hoofers. The North - they do well with what they have, but it's not especially attractive. They do have Steve Davis, which helps. The very limit of what we can hope to achieve with this group is something like what Sweden did in the recent World Cup campaign. That's basically to be organised as hell defensively and play an abrasive, physical northern European style. Bully our opponents physically and get a platform to play some kind of half-decent, high energy football on top of that. And make set-pieces count. But we aren't going to be controlling the midfield and dominating possession against any sort of a decent team. To play a good style, especially at international level where tactics and styles are rudimentary compared to club football, requires good players, and to produce good players is a generational job like what Belgium undertook. We can do better for sure, but we have to be realistic about what that "better" will look like. It isn't going to look like the football playing style equivalent of a young Andrea Corr, or even an old Sharon Corr. It'll look more like Jim Corr. We'll start playing like Croatia when we produce players of the class of Croatia's players. And mine's a pint of Harp and packet of dates please, Lawrence. Edited by sid waddell - 23 Nov 2018 at 9:56pm |
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GB 1HughJarse
Liam Brady Joined: 03 Sep 2015 Status: Offline Points: 2091 |
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Happy Mick got the job.
Really great opportunity for him.....top 2 qualify automatically, and then NL playoff if we finish a close 3rd (hopefully not 4th or 5th). Guaranteed full house now for 1st home game in LR. It is what it is, get your views/gripes out now, but stand behind the team next March. Ireland’s Euro 2020 song: “We’re all part of Mick’s Army... We’re all off to Dublin, London, Bilbao, Copenhagen, Bucharest, Rome, St Petersburg, Munich, Budapest, Bandon, Baku, Amsterdam..... |
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Dugs
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well i for one am.looking forward to the draw. Hopefully we get a half decent one and we can go into the campaign with some optimism.
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coyne
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It’s all about what the current ‘meta’ or trend is in Football. European Interational Football is in the early 2010s of English football where playing 5 in midfield is the norm. It’s the Managers job to develop a system which counters the trend which was discovered by Wenger/Conte that playing 3 cente halfs and keeping the ball on the ground will annihilate any 5 man midfield formation. Irish Football is still in the period of playing 5 man midfield formations because we don’t simply have the technical players to evolve regardless if MON is still manager or if Mick/Big Sam is the next manager. If we ever saw Richard Keogh playing in as a ball playing defender in a 3 man defence I think the country may see another uprising. The sad part is that I have no doubt in my mind that Rice would of been a key figure in a setup as such by how he distributes the ball
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grannyrule
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Completely in agreement here. You would swear from some that Kenny was the messiah and the FAI were overlooking someone who won 5 Champions leagues or something. A good LOI manager no doubt but Mick is the right choice and I am glad he is back.
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Donegalman
Liam Brady Joined: 16 Jun 2015 Location: Donegal Status: Offline Points: 1650 |
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I wanted Kenny personally but I’m happy with Mick. I don’t agree with the lazy arguement that we don’t have the players. We have good enough players to be playing significantly better than we have in the last year. One thing I think Mick will bring is organisation and structure to the team which is what we lacked under O Neill. A quick fix to get to the Euros sure but I’d rather us qualify than string 1000 passes together each game and play lovely football like people expected under Kenny. Had this change taken place last November it would have given Kenny a chance to experiment with the team.
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Drumcondra 69er
Jack Charlton Joined: 07 Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 7116 |
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It's not likely under anybody. You're actually tying a manager's hands behind his back asking him to do it. A good time is when you have a number of friendlies and maybe a nations league campaign to experiment with. To bring players you think will suit that ethos through. Even with that, you'd need to work with the existing squad to see who could adapt. You can't expect someone to take the existing squad and implement, say Stephen Kenny's style in the next game. There's a chance to get it right at 21s and build from there. I don't think we'll take that but it's more important than the senior job right now imo. Short term fix to qualify was only option imo.
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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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Are you another one who believes that McCarthy had no hand in our failure to qualify for '04? It's like a McCarthy cult with some of ye where ye just blank oh so many horrible moments of awful management under him He shouldn't have been on a shortlist of 100 names. It's genuinely a disgrace that they've gone back to him. As I said already, get the binoculars out, that ball is going be hoofed by Shane Duffy longer than you've ever seen before under our Mick.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Ruckinspector
Joe Lapira Joined: 02 Sep 2018 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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As mentioned previously,a decent although not brave appointment....let’s have some proper connectivity with U21s (Lee Carsley please) and the underage....let’s also not ignore the LOI,there are hidden gems there....lets not bemoan our lack of goalscorers/technical players rather make what we have better and comfortable in an Irish style of play...guts,heart,physicality,desire,directness (mixed with a bit of skill and flair)....all are admirable and desirable characteristics which we do have...
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colemanY2K
Roy Keane Fresh minty breath Joined: 01 Mar 2010 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 14959 |
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The following clip is from last season, the very season he was sacked/resigned a few matches before the end. Not many of the goals in the clip had snow on the ball. In fact if you were big enough you'd admit the football played in the lead up to many of these goals is quite attractive on the eye. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQn5b26RWOo I'd hazard a guess a lot of those on here giving out about Mick "agricultural" style of play haven't seen his teams play in the past few years. Edited by colemanY2K - 23 Nov 2018 at 11:22pm |
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"One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942.
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Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39772 |
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I've decided to step down as head critic of the Irish manager. My work is done. I now hand the reigns over to whoever wants to bid for it. Hans Moleman is the early bookies favourite.
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deise316
Moderator Group Don't ask me about car warranty Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Location: The Déise Status: Offline Points: 10921 |
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I actually sacked you a few hours ago, yer letter is in the post. Now go over & stick yer name in your own sacked thread. |
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Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.....
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Dugs
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Hes even more annoying than you..already
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Some decent team goals in that video. Judging by how involved David McGoldrick was in a lot of those clips, I’d be expecting him to be named in Mick’s first squad.
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