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Also in before anyone mentions the North - every single person on this would have had Michael O'Neill crucified for his initial results, had they happened to us. Myself included. We don't have that patience. We want long term results in the short term.
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Originally posted by rolo rolo wrote:

Very harsh criticism of Mick on here. He is doing a very good job, considering the players at his disposal.
People have short memories. Not even a year ago since the mood on here was downbeat about our chances. I remember pre madonna predicting with absolute confidence that Ireland would be competing with Georgia for 3rd place, and that Ireland would lose that battle.
We are top of the group. People need to be reminded of how low things were before Mick took the job. His job is to take us to the Euros, by whatever means.
If we stuck with MON that would have been ambitious! 7/8 points we would have gotten at a stretch!!
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Happy to be top after 5 games i must say and if Mick gets us to 2020 it will be outstanding .
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can see Mick getting the Scotland Job if he continues doing well with ourselves and Kenny takes the job .
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I'm not sure an Irishman with links to Celtic would go down all that well with a lot of Scotland fans.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

I'm not sure an Irishman with links to Celtic would go down all that well with a lot of Scotland fans.

Are we all militant Proddies that support Rangers then ?

You clearly don't know a thing about our support.
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We are not overly blessed with talent at the minute and MoN / Keane only took us backwards. The good news is the  amount of quality players who may be coming through in the next few years. In the circumstances, 'holding the line' in terms of building pride and morale is significant. If that can be coupled with maybe moving up the rankings for future qualification campaigns - or at least not slipping back - these should be seen as positives. Mick seems very well qualified to perform this task and so far, seems to be doing so very well.
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Originally posted by ErsatzThistle ErsatzThistle wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

I'm not sure an Irishman with links to Celtic would go down all that well with a lot of Scotland fans.

Are we all militant Proddies that support Rangers then ?

You clearly don't know a thing about our support.

No, but Steve Clarke's (tenuous) "Taig" links provoked enough attention to suggest that Scotland still has a pretty visible sectarian faultline. I think the prospect of an Irish former Celtic player taking over would be more than enough to ruffle a few feathers.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:


No, but Steve Clarke's (tenuous) "Taig" links provoked enough attention to suggest that Scotland still has a pretty visible sectarian faultline. I think the prospect of an Irish former Celtic player taking over would be more than enough to ruffle a few feathers.

Scotland supporters don't have any problem with having a Catholic manager or having anyone with a Celtic connection involved. I can assure you of that without any doubt. If you like, you can register for the TAMB and ask other supporters outright, they will only tell you the same.

Of course if some "oppressed", tin foil hat wearing, paranoid wacko, that lives in a bubble from the lunatic fringe of the Celtic support wants to spin lies that the Scotland support are all a bunch of bigots who hate Celtic and don't want any Catholics in our team then that's their sad wee problem and I can only pity them. 

I suggest you take a highly educational trip to Rangers Media or Follow Follow and see what they say about our Scottish national team's fans, or as they like to call us "Tartan Tranny ****s". For various stupid reasons they fecking hate us just as much, indeed if not more than they hate YBIG !

The majority of our fans support teams like Aberdeen, Hibs, Dundee Utd, Hearts, Dundee, St Johnstone, Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Falkirk, Partick Thistle, Greenock Morton etc etc and have a deeply rooted contempt for all this Old Firm sh*te.

Steve Clarke is actually the seventh Roman Catholic to manage Scotland either on a permanent or temporary basis. The others were - Matt Busby, Malky MacDonald, Tommy Docherty, Berti Vogts, Tommy Burns & Malky Mackay.

Tommy Burns (a Celtic legend and a devout Roman Catholic) was highly popular with the Scotland fans when he was assistant manager, first under Berti Vogts and then under Walter Smith. Burns was known for often socialising with the fans on away trips and even helping them to find tickets and accommodation. We dearly wish that Tommy Burns was still with us.

A former ROI international (Steven Reid) is one of Clarke's coaches with Scotland. I don't know of anyone who gave the slightest toss about Reid's nationality when he took the job. I am glad to have him with us. Hopefully in time he can teach John McGinn how to pass a friggin ball properly !
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Originally posted by OnTheOneRoad OnTheOneRoad wrote:

Also in before anyone mentions the North - every single person on this would have had Michael O'Neill crucified for his initial results, had they happened to us. Myself included. We don't have that patience. We want long term results in the short term.
We are Ireland !!! We had huge players before, now and then.
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We are McCarthys army sure we are the boys in green
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Originally posted by ErsatzThistle ErsatzThistle wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:


No, but Steve Clarke's (tenuous) "Taig" links provoked enough attention to suggest that Scotland still has a pretty visible sectarian faultline. I think the prospect of an Irish former Celtic player taking over would be more than enough to ruffle a few feathers.

Scotland supporters don't have any problem with having a Catholic manager or having anyone with a Celtic connection involved. I can assure you of that without any doubt. If you like, you can register for the TAMB and ask other supporters outright, they will only tell you the same.

Of course if some "oppressed", tin foil hat wearing, paranoid wacko, that lives in a bubble from the lunatic fringe of the Celtic support wants to spin lies that the Scotland support are all a bunch of bigots who hate Celtic and don't want any Catholics in our team then that's their sad wee problem and I can only pity them. 

I suggest you take a highly educational trip to Rangers Media or Follow Follow and see what they say about our Scottish national team's fans, or as they like to call us "Tartan Tranny ****s". For various stupid reasons they fecking hate us just as much, indeed if not more than they hate YBIG !

The majority of our fans support teams like Aberdeen, Hibs, Dundee Utd, Hearts, Dundee, St Johnstone, Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Falkirk, Partick Thistle, Greenock Morton etc etc and have a deeply rooted contempt for all this Old Firm sh*te.

Steve Clarke is actually the seventh Roman Catholic to manage Scotland either on a permanent or temporary basis. The others were - Matt Busby, Malky MacDonald, Tommy Docherty, Berti Vogts, Tommy Burns & Malky Mackay.

Tommy Burns (a Celtic legend and a devout Roman Catholic) was highly popular with the Scotland fans when he was assistant manager, first under Berti Vogts and then under Walter Smith. Burns was known for often socialising with the fans on away trips and even helping them to find tickets and accommodation. We dearly wish that Tommy Burns was still with us.

A former ROI international (Steven Reid) is one of Clarke's coaches with Scotland. I don't know of anyone who gave the slightest toss about Reid's nationality when he took the job. I am glad to have him with us. Hopefully in time he can teach John McGinn how to pass a friggin ball properly !
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Originally posted by ErsatzThistle ErsatzThistle wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:


No, but Steve Clarke's (tenuous) "Taig" links provoked enough attention to suggest that Scotland still has a pretty visible sectarian faultline. I think the prospect of an Irish former Celtic player taking over would be more than enough to ruffle a few feathers.


Of course if some "oppressed", tin foil hat wearing, paranoid wacko, that lives in a bubble from the lunatic fringe of the Celtic support wants to spin lies that the Scotland support are all a bunch of bigots who hate Celtic and don't want any Catholics in our team then that's their sad wee problem and I can only pity them. 


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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

What does Mick have to do to get some credit? It wasn’t his fault he was appointed and given a remit of qualification! People on about beating teams of note! We have possibly the worst squad in our history! It’s atrocious! And yet he has kept us in with a shout with three games to go.
I said before the campaign that if we qualify they should build a statue of him, that hasn’t changed.

I don't disagree. We won't qualify. 

We most certainly won't qualify by trying not to win games though. That is what McCarthy has brought. Those tactics and that mindset. I most definitely won't applaud him for that.
 
We might not have been going all out to win the games vs Denmark and the Swiss but we have successfully avoid defeat in both. Did you honestly expect us to avoid defeat in both those games? Given the dearth in quality and/or available players on both occasions I absolutely expected a loss in Copenhagen and thought a defeat in Dublin to the Swiss was more likely than not.
 
I'm not really sure why you are so vehemently anti-McCarthy. There almost appears to be a slight level of delusion on your part in terms of how good our current pool of talent is. As PM rightly points out this is, on paper at least, the worst side we have had in a long, long time.

Slight?? 

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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

ET slaying the nonsense talk on here like


Was that your full fight?

LOL

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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by ErsatzThistle ErsatzThistle wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

I'm not sure an Irishman with links to Celtic would go down all that well with a lot of Scotland fans.

Are we all militant Proddies that support Rangers then ?

You clearly don't know a thing about our support.

No, but Steve Clarke's (tenuous) "Taig" links provoked enough attention to suggest that Scotland still has a pretty visible sectarian faultline. I think the prospect of an Irish former Celtic player taking over would be more than enough to ruffle a few feathers.

Wasn't Michael O'Neill openly offered the Scotland job?
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