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Mick came across well as always . A class act. 

Looking at that squad Liam Daish above  , now there’s a blast from the past . 
Played for us in 92 then no more caps until 96.  How many other Irish players went through a gap like that ?
Stephen Gleeson played in 2007 under Staunton. Didn't get another call up for nine years.

I thought you'd know the answer. Alex Stevenson famously had to wait 14 years between his first and second caps (1932 to 1946) but that's an ancient history.

Do you have a list of Ireland's oldest debutantes? Asking because if Amond were to make his, he'd be close to 31. Especially outfield players. I know Slaven and Coyne were 29 when they made theirs. Shaun Williams must be up there.
I know Forde was 31 when he was given his debut by Trapattoni, but I'm not sure if he was the oldest
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Amond is only 30, so he definitely won't be the oldest. I'd say Williams was late 31/32 on his first start.
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Amond is only 30, so he definitely won't be the oldest. I'd say Williams was late 31/32 on his first start.

Thought Williams was probably the oldest.
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Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by depechemode depechemode wrote:

Mick came across well as always . A class act. 

Looking at that squad Liam Daish above  , now there’s a blast from the past . 
Played for us in 92 then no more caps until 96.  How many other Irish players went through a gap like that ?
Stephen Gleeson played in 2007 under Staunton. Didn't get another call up for nine years.

I thought you'd know the answer. Alex Stevenson famously had to wait 14 years between his first and second caps (1932 to 1946) but that's an ancient history.

Do you have a list of Ireland's oldest debutantes? Asking because if Amond were to make his, he'd be close to 31. Especially outfield players. I know Slaven and Coyne were 29 when they made theirs. Shaun Williams must be up there.
I know Forde was 31 when he was given his debut by Trapattoni, but I'm not sure if he was the oldest

Thanks.

Jack tried to bring in Steve Bruce for the '94 World Cup but he wasn't eligible. He would've been making his debut in his mid thirties!
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Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by depechemode depechemode wrote:

Mick came across well as always . A class act. 

Looking at that squad Liam Daish above  , now there’s a blast from the past . 
Played for us in 92 then no more caps until 96.  How many other Irish players went through a gap like that ?
Stephen Gleeson played in 2007 under Staunton. Didn't get another call up for nine years.

I thought you'd know the answer. Alex Stevenson famously had to wait 14 years between his first and second caps (1932 to 1946) but that's an ancient history.

Do you have a list of Ireland's oldest debutantes? Asking because if Amond were to make his, he'd be close to 31. Especially outfield players. I know Slaven and Coyne were 29 when they made theirs. Shaun Williams must be up there.
I know Forde was 31 when he was given his debut by Trapattoni, but I'm not sure if he was the oldest

Thanks.

Jack tried to bring in Steve Bruce for the '94 World Cup but he wasn't eligible. He would've been making his debut in his mid thirties!

Bruce was eligible, Ferguson refused to allow him to declare though due to the fact he would have taken up one of the "foreigner places" in the United squad if he had.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by depechemode depechemode wrote:

Mick came across well as always . A class act. 

Looking at that squad Liam Daish above  , now there’s a blast from the past . 
Played for us in 92 then no more caps until 96.  How many other Irish players went through a gap like that ?
Stephen Gleeson played in 2007 under Staunton. Didn't get another call up for nine years.

I thought you'd know the answer. Alex Stevenson famously had to wait 14 years between his first and second caps (1932 to 1946) but that's an ancient history.

Do you have a list of Ireland's oldest debutantes? Asking because if Amond were to make his, he'd be close to 31. Especially outfield players. I know Slaven and Coyne were 29 when they made theirs. Shaun Williams must be up there.
I know Forde was 31 when he was given his debut by Trapattoni, but I'm not sure if he was the oldest

Thanks.

Jack tried to bring in Steve Bruce for the '94 World Cup but he wasn't eligible. He would've been making his debut in his mid thirties!

Bruce was eligible, Ferguson refused to allow him to declare though due to the fact he would have taken up one of the "foreigner places" in the United squad if he had.

Pretty sure he wasn't eligible by then as he'd taken an England B cap by then. The Fergie thing is just a myth for the afte dinner circuit. 
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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by depechemode depechemode wrote:

Mick came across well as always . A class act. 

Looking at that squad Liam Daish above  , now there’s a blast from the past . 
Played for us in 92 then no more caps until 96.  How many other Irish players went through a gap like that ?
Stephen Gleeson played in 2007 under Staunton. Didn't get another call up for nine years.

I thought you'd know the answer. Alex Stevenson famously had to wait 14 years between his first and second caps (1932 to 1946) but that's an ancient history.

Do you have a list of Ireland's oldest debutantes? Asking because if Amond were to make his, he'd be close to 31. Especially outfield players. I know Slaven and Coyne were 29 when they made theirs. Shaun Williams must be up there.
I know Forde was 31 when he was given his debut by Trapattoni, but I'm not sure if he was the oldest

Thanks.

Jack tried to bring in Steve Bruce for the '94 World Cup but he wasn't eligible. He would've been making his debut in his mid thirties!

Bruce was eligible, Ferguson refused to allow him to declare though due to the fact he would have taken up one of the "foreigner places" in the United squad if he had.

Pretty sure he wasn't eligible by then as he'd taken an England B cap by then. The Fergie thing is just a myth for the afte dinner circuit. 
Correct. His England B appearance was in 1987.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by depechemode depechemode wrote:

Mick came across well as always . A class act. 

Looking at that squad Liam Daish above  , now there’s a blast from the past . 
Played for us in 92 then no more caps until 96.  How many other Irish players went through a gap like that ?
Stephen Gleeson played in 2007 under Staunton. Didn't get another call up for nine years.

I thought you'd know the answer. Alex Stevenson famously had to wait 14 years between his first and second caps (1932 to 1946) but that's an ancient history.

Do you have a list of Ireland's oldest debutantes? Asking because if Amond were to make his, he'd be close to 31. Especially outfield players. I know Slaven and Coyne were 29 when they made theirs. Shaun Williams must be up there.
I know Forde was 31 when he was given his debut by Trapattoni, but I'm not sure if he was the oldest

Thanks.

Jack tried to bring in Steve Bruce for the '94 World Cup but he wasn't eligible. He would've been making his debut in his mid thirties!

Bruce was eligible, Ferguson refused to allow him to declare though due to the fact he would have taken up one of the "foreigner places" in the United squad if he had.
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Originally posted by DUBLIN DOC DUBLIN DOC wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by depechemode depechemode wrote:

Mick came across well as always . A class act. 

Looking at that squad Liam Daish above  , now there’s a blast from the past . 
Played for us in 92 then no more caps until 96.  How many other Irish players went through a gap like that ?
Stephen Gleeson played in 2007 under Staunton. Didn't get another call up for nine years.

I thought you'd know the answer. Alex Stevenson famously had to wait 14 years between his first and second caps (1932 to 1946) but that's an ancient history.

Do you have a list of Ireland's oldest debutantes? Asking because if Amond were to make his, he'd be close to 31. Especially outfield players. I know Slaven and Coyne were 29 when they made theirs. Shaun Williams must be up there.
I know Forde was 31 when he was given his debut by Trapattoni, but I'm not sure if he was the oldest

Thanks.

Jack tried to bring in Steve Bruce for the '94 World Cup but he wasn't eligible. He would've been making his debut in his mid thirties!

Bruce was eligible, Ferguson refused to allow him to declare though due to the fact he would have taken up one of the "foreigner places" in the United squad if he had.
Yep you definitely know your onions LOL

If you're going to obsess over my posts, at least learn to articulate yourself in a semi-intelligent manner. That's probably too much to ask of you though.
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Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by depechemode depechemode wrote:

Mick came across well as always . A class act. 

Looking at that squad Liam Daish above  , now there’s a blast from the past . 
Played for us in 92 then no more caps until 96.  How many other Irish players went through a gap like that ?
Stephen Gleeson played in 2007 under Staunton. Didn't get another call up for nine years.

I thought you'd know the answer. Alex Stevenson famously had to wait 14 years between his first and second caps (1932 to 1946) but that's an ancient history.

Do you have a list of Ireland's oldest debutantes? Asking because if Amond were to make his, he'd be close to 31. Especially outfield players. I know Slaven and Coyne were 29 when they made theirs. Shaun Williams must be up there.


This is the best I can do, but the date of birth of a lot of players who played before the second world war are tough to find, so there could be more that I've listed here

Player         Date of birth       Debut  Age  Home                Score                Away
Bill Lacey        24-09-1889  23-04-1927   37  Republic of Ireland  1-2                Italy
George Moulson    06-08-1914  23-05-1948   33  Portugal             2-0  Republic of Ireland
Florrie Burke     07-08-1918  17-10-1951   33  Republic of Ireland  3-2              Germany
Noel Kelly        28-12-1921  07-03-1954   32  Luxembourg           0-1  Republic of Ireland
Jack O'Reilly     07-05-1914  16-06-1946   32  Portugal             3-1  Republic of Ireland
Shaun Williams    19-10-1986  28-05-2018   31  France               2-0  Republic of Ireland
David Forde       20-12-1979  24-05-2011   31  Republic of Ireland  5-0     Northern Ireland
Christy Giles     07-07-1919  26-11-1950   31  Republic of Ireland  2-2               Norway
Terry Mancini     04-10-1942  21-10-1973   31  Republic of Ireland  1-0               Poland
Billy Hayes       07-11-1915  30-09-1946   30  Republic of Ireland  0-1              England



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Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by depechemode depechemode wrote:

Mick came across well as always . A class act. 

Looking at that squad Liam Daish above  , now there’s a blast from the past . 
Played for us in 92 then no more caps until 96.  How many other Irish players went through a gap like that ?
Stephen Gleeson played in 2007 under Staunton. Didn't get another call up for nine years.

I thought you'd know the answer. Alex Stevenson famously had to wait 14 years between his first and second caps (1932 to 1946) but that's an ancient history.

Do you have a list of Ireland's oldest debutantes? Asking because if Amond were to make his, he'd be close to 31. Especially outfield players. I know Slaven and Coyne were 29 when they made theirs. Shaun Williams must be up there.


This is the best I can do, but the date of birth of a lot of players who played before the second world war are tough to find, so there could be more that I've listed here

Player         Date of birth       Debut  Age  Home                Score                Away
Bill Lacey        24-09-1889  23-04-1927   37  Republic of Ireland  1-2                Italy
George Moulson    06-08-1914  23-05-1948   33  Portugal             2-0  Republic of Ireland
Florrie Burke     07-08-1918  17-10-1951   33  Republic of Ireland  3-2              Germany
Noel Kelly        28-12-1921  07-03-1954   32  Luxembourg           0-1  Republic of Ireland
Jack O'Reilly     07-05-1914  16-06-1946   32  Portugal             3-1  Republic of Ireland
Shaun Williams    19-10-1986  28-05-2018   31  France               2-0  Republic of Ireland
David Forde       20-12-1979  24-05-2011   31  Republic of Ireland  5-0     Northern Ireland
Christy Giles     07-07-1919  26-11-1950   31  Republic of Ireland  2-2               Norway
Terry Mancini     04-10-1942  21-10-1973   31  Republic of Ireland  1-0               Poland
Billy Hayes       07-11-1915  30-09-1946   30  Republic of Ireland  0-1              England


Great work!

I wonder why it took so long for Mancini to win his first cap. He had a very decent top flight career for QPR and Arsenal.
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Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by depechemode depechemode wrote:

Mick came across well as always . A class act. 

Looking at that squad Liam Daish above  , now there’s a blast from the past . 
Played for us in 92 then no more caps until 96.  How many other Irish players went through a gap like that ?
Stephen Gleeson played in 2007 under Staunton. Didn't get another call up for nine years.

I thought you'd know the answer. Alex Stevenson famously had to wait 14 years between his first and second caps (1932 to 1946) but that's an ancient history.

Do you have a list of Ireland's oldest debutantes? Asking because if Amond were to make his, he'd be close to 31. Especially outfield players. I know Slaven and Coyne were 29 when they made theirs. Shaun Williams must be up there.


This is the best I can do, but the date of birth of a lot of players who played before the second world war are tough to find, so there could be more that I've listed here

Player         Date of birth       Debut  Age  Home                Score                Away
Bill Lacey        24-09-1889  23-04-1927   37  Republic of Ireland  1-2                Italy
George Moulson    06-08-1914  23-05-1948   33  Portugal             2-0  Republic of Ireland
Florrie Burke     07-08-1918  17-10-1951   33  Republic of Ireland  3-2              Germany
Noel Kelly        28-12-1921  07-03-1954   32  Luxembourg           0-1  Republic of Ireland
Jack O'Reilly     07-05-1914  16-06-1946   32  Portugal             3-1  Republic of Ireland
Shaun Williams    19-10-1986  28-05-2018   31  France               2-0  Republic of Ireland
David Forde       20-12-1979  24-05-2011   31  Republic of Ireland  5-0     Northern Ireland
Christy Giles     07-07-1919  26-11-1950   31  Republic of Ireland  2-2               Norway
Terry Mancini     04-10-1942  21-10-1973   31  Republic of Ireland  1-0               Poland
Billy Hayes       07-11-1915  30-09-1946   30  Republic of Ireland  0-1              England


Great work!

I wonder why it took so long for Mancini to win his first cap. He had a very decent top flight career for QPR and Arsenal.

Not sure how in touch with his Irish roots he or the FAI were... 
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Here's some stories about him including the famous national anthem one.



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Here's some stories about him including the famous national anthem one.


Nothing on that link, mate? 
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Originally posted by TonyNotJack TonyNotJack wrote:

Here's some stories about him including the famous national anthem one.


Nothing on that link, mate? 

cheers. It should be ok now in the original link.
 




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