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Landon Donovan
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Sorry i should have said sporting evolution. The bar is raised every single time in every sport. The next generation will always be better. There will be somebody faster than Usain Bolt, a better darts player than Taylor, a better driver than Schumacher (probably Vettel). Thats how sport rolls |
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Roy Keane Coat hangar expert Joined: 04 Mar 2010 Location: El North Side Status: Offline Points: 10071 |
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67% points to games ratio at the last Euro's (better than Portugal's)
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22173 |
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Why are you " " confused??? Football science obviously plays a huge part in todays game , but its a bold statement to make that players are more talented than they were 10/15 years ago??? How exactly??? Players like Torres , Tevez , Sniedjer , Cesc etc etc wouldnt be worth anywhere near what they are nowadays only for an over inflated market....Name 10 World Class defenders that are playing right now who would lace Maldini's , Cafu's , Hierro or Cannavaro's boots?? I would struggle to name 3 or 4....
To say the standard of player at present is better than 10 to 15 years is ludacris imo....Its all about Money , Money , Money now!!!
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Landon Donovan
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WTF does money and transfer fee's have to do with anything? Ferdinand: 5 league titles and 1 champions league. Will be viewed as one of united greatest ever players The view of defenders is they dont get judged until very late in their career. Maldini wasnt considered better than Baresi until he got into his 30s. |
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Siralex
Jack Charlton Poor Man's Duncan Castles Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6295 |
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Jaysus - Lads, c'mon now! Landon is so right. Every top class player in teh present day is much better than any top class player of even 10 years ago. That's blatantly obvious. The game has evolved so much. All you'd have to do is see a decent player such as Nani with his shirt off compared to even a great player of 10-years ago such as Figo with his shirt off. We are talking through proper athletes that compete at the top level now. It's literally a different ball game. (Start the; "Figo's much better than Nani" bulllcrap debate) - not really the point! My point is that the players today are much fitter than players of 10-years ago and they can't really be compared. There truly is a stark difference, and trying to compare them never works. |
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Devrozex
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Eh....wha? They can't be compared....but they're much worse? Make your mind up!
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Siralex
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They can't be compared, because there is no comparison. An average player today is much better than an average player from the turn of the decade, and a top-class player today is much better than a top-class player from 10-years ago. Surely that's the most obvious thing ever!!!! Then again, it probably isn't - you still hear people trying to compare today's players with players in the 60s etc! Here'sa good statistic. 1995 Premier League ball in play average 69minutes. 2010: Ballin play average 85mins Different athletes altogether. Incomparable! |
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Shoco
Roy Keane Hail Hail the Celts are here Joined: 14 Dec 2008 Location: Celthick Park Status: Offline Points: 13727 |
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definatley better athletes, doesnt mean they are better footballers
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Siralex
Jack Charlton Poor Man's Duncan Castles Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6295 |
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But sure how could you ever be able to tell that? Fact of the matter is that players such as Figo - as amazing as he was in his prime, and I mean AMAZING! - would find it very difficult to cope in today's evolved game. Surely that's just obvious! Unless of course he kept equally as fit as the current crop of players. But he wasn't as fit as them, so it isn't even a debate! |
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Shoco
Roy Keane Hail Hail the Celts are here Joined: 14 Dec 2008 Location: Celthick Park Status: Offline Points: 13727 |
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not really obvious no
would roy keane struggle in todays game? i dont think he would, would paul scholes of 10 ears ago struggle in todays game? i dont think so ryan giggs was playing when the premier league started nearly 20 years ago, hes still playing with the top team at the highest level! say a great player 20 years ago the could dribble with the ball and run at defenders, if you could take same player and put him in the game today with the pitches today i think they would be even better now. also i dont think defenders are better at tackling now than 20 years ago a good defender 20 years that could read the game then could still read the game today that is all opinion of course and not fact as you would say, but your right wel never know (with the exception of giggs of course who is proof that a great player 20/15 years ago could still be great in the modern game) |
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The GerK
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Siralex
Jack Charlton Poor Man's Duncan Castles Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6295 |
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Yeah - but all that is stuff we don't know and will never know! It is incomparable to argue about a player 10-years ago being better than a player now, the same as it was when my dad and uncles used to always try to tell me that George Best was better than Ryan Giggs. The two players are on different planets. If George Best - in his pomp - was put in to the United team in the early 90s (when we had thsi argument) he'd have been lost. The game had moved on so much sonce then. Now, if George had have been born with the same skills later in life, would he have been the ultimate star of 90s football? Who knows, how can we know.... All we know for facts are that players are much fitter know than they were five years ago, they are much fitter now than they were 10 years ago, they are on a different planet to the players that were stars fifteen years ago and...so on and so on. The ball is in play much more now than it ever was. Just 15-years ago, you didn't have 20 ballboys each with a ball pumping the ball back in to play. You had goalkeepers taking the ball in to their hands with back-passes, you had breathers. It was totally different ball game. The best statistic is, and y'all probably remember this, the 1990 World Cup in Italy. Remember the captions that the TV's used to show? All the white dots down the two sides of teh screen with statistics every 15minutes. Time, Score, Ball in Play. The time would be at 90mins and the Ball in play would be much less than the hour mark. FIFA have worked hard on making sure the ball is in play as much as often in teh years since. Look at all the rule changes. Same with that stat Gerk asked me for a source for, it's obvious. I don't have a source, it's probably on-line somewhere, but I know it, because I've used it in very similar arguments over the past year having seen them somewhere. But of course that's true, we all know the changes that have been made since. The 'ball in play' has been increasing every year! Course it has! Edited by Siralex - 16 Sep 2011 at 12:48pm |
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