Fifa investigating 1916 commemorative shirts

the_walls wrote: The British save the day again so and ungrateful Johnny Foreigner still won't let them do as they please

the_walls wrote: The British save the day again so and ungrateful Johnny Foreigner still won't let them do as they please

Listen mate, I just quote the facts, I don't make 'em.

Or you could say that like the Free State, I mean, Ireland, I am firmly neutral when it comes to international disputes which threaten all our existence...

I actually think seeing as it's two British teams playing on Armistice Day, they should be allowed to mark it if they wish (just like we did the rising). it would be completely different if they were playing a former British colony however.

England/Scotland/Wales (I'll leave NI out because it's obviously a lot more contentious) wearing the poppy makes 100 times more sense then football clubs forcing their players to wear them

Territorial wrote: Trap junior wrote: Any truth to the rumours that the Republic of Ireland will have "oh ah up the RA" embroidered on their shirts versis Austria? Apparently the fine is small so those in the associatoon feel its a small price to pay. Shane Duffy has got his Ma's sewing machine out as we speak....

All the better for it, sure don't all great organisations deserve a bit of commemoration

Trap junior wrote: I keep asking this but nobody answers.  How is it the Brits could go decades on end without wearing this stupid poppy on their shirts and yet now they are up in arms about it?

pre Madonna wrote: Trap junior wrote: I keep asking this but nobody answers.  How is it the Brits could go decades on end without wearing this stupid poppy on their shirts and yet now they are up in arms about it?   YVAN EHT NIOJ

Can you fix a bike?
If you can fix a bike you can fix a plane.  If you can fix a plane you fix a plane on an aircraft carrier. 

Can you take a shot of vodka?  Then you can take a few shots to the upper body.

Ever get legless down the pub?  Then you can get legless after being blown to bits in Afghanistan.

Ever commit a crime?  Then you can commit a crime while wearing a British Military uniform and get praised for it.

JOIN THE BRITISH FORCES




Edited by Trap junior - 03 Nov 2016 at 4:37pm

Trap junior wrote: pre Madonna wrote: Trap junior wrote: I keep asking this but nobody answers.  How is it the Brits could go decades on end without wearing this stupid poppy on their shirts and yet now they are up in arms about it?   YVAN EHT NIOJ Can you fix a bike? If you can fix a bike you can fix a plane.  If you can fix a plane you fix a plane on an aircraft carrier.  Can you take a shot of vodka?  Then you can take a few shots to the upper body. Ever get legless down the pub?  Then you can get legless after being blown to bits in Afghanistan. Ever commit a crime?  Then you can commit a crime while wearing a British Military uniform and get praised for it. JOIN THE BRITISH FORCES

Trap junior wrote: I keep asking this but nobody answers.  How is it the Brits could go decades on end without wearing this stupid poppy on their shirts and yet now they are up in arms about it?

The FA (and clubs) may just be reflecting a resurgence in interest in World War One (esp) and World War Two, including amongst young people. And whatever you think about Iraq etc, it is those two conflicts which are most associated with the Poppy.

And I suspect that this interest stems from the fact that those two wars are now included in the schools history curriculum:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/0/ww1/

And one other factor which may be relevant is that there are a large number of disabled ex-Servicemen in the UK from recent conflicts, including NI, Afghanistan and Iraq etc. And unlike in previous decades, when the disabled were isolated, forgotten and even hidden away, they are now more fully acknowledged and supported - see the rise of the Paralympic Games, or the Invicta games.

That being so, the Poppy is an obvious way of showing support for disabled veterans:
Where does money raised during the Poppy Appeal go to?
All net Poppy Appeal income raised goes into the Royal British Legion Benevolent Fund, and is made available to beneficiaries according to need, regardless of where they live, and includes beneficiaries who qualify overseas.
All proceeds raised from poppies in Scotland go to Poppyscotland who provide tailored support and funding to thousands of ex-Service men and women as well as other vital services in advice, employment, mobility, respite, housing and mental health support.
Most proceeds raised from poppies overseas go to support beneficiaries in that country. Some countries collect more than they need for local welfare, and any excess funds are returned to head office to support beneficiaries in the UK.
http://support.britishlegion.org.uk/app/answers/detail/a_id/280/~/poppy-faqs

Finally, and to bring the debate back to the thread title (kinda), the passage of time possibly has an effect. That is, people may now look back at past conflicts more "safely" (dispassionately) after a period of time has elapsed. Which would explain why there seems to have been much more interest in the Centenary of the 1916 Rising, than there was in 1966?

I hope this provides an answer (of sorts) to your question. Should it prove inadequate, may I suggest you continue the discussion on some of the other Poppy threads, so that this one can stick to the subject of the FAI's contravention of the FIFA rules on political slogans on shirts?

Newryrep wrote: Yeah imagine no Fifa, who could possibly imagine an international tournament for the worlds most popular sport ....

For three points, who invented the sport?

And for your supplementary question, why is it the world's most popular?
[Clue: Bri--sh Emp--e]

P.S. Apologies if these questions are too easy for a Newry man. After all, I'd expect you to know all about Garrison Sports...

Edited by Territorial - 03 Nov 2016 at 5:07pm