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Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

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Wouldn’t surprise me if your man from Jacc Sports is the one designing it Ermm


They'll be hopefully out on their ear when their contract expires without JD around. That was another jobs for the boys going back to both their fathers.

A lot of JD love triangles still there. This is corporate Ireland. How crazy is it that the Secretary of the Department of Health is on the FAI Board? Either that he is on the FAI Board or has that much time on his hands to be on it when the pandemic has crippled and closed hundreds of businesses..not harming his own emolument 
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I think the strategic plan for qualification for a tournament in 2024 for men and before 2025 for women is a bit silly to put in. The organization can't really dictate our fate there as wheels are already in motion so it's more so a hope that we qualify versus a strategic plan on doing something as an organization to make it happen. Only thing they could maybe do better are improve travel and food arrangements when they are in camp and ensure the managers are getting what they want. But it's success is still really down to the players and what we are up against.

Could have just said as one bullet point "support the men's and women's senior teams by doing X and Y to give them the best hope of qualifying for upcoming tournaments"

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Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

In relation to the kpi's, was there any mention of how the FAI are going to contribute towards these being achieved, or was the emphasis put on the clubs, LoI, MNT/WNT?
Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

I think the strategic plan for qualification for a tournament in 2024 for men and before 2025 for women is a bit silly to put in. The organization can't really dictate our fate there as wheels are already in motion so it's more so a hope that we qualify versus a strategic plan on doing something as an organization to make it happen. Only thing they could maybe do better are improve travel and food arrangements when they are in camp and ensure the managers are getting what they want. But it's success is still really down to the players and what we are up against.

It's the first thing any company does when setting out their strategy, set the goalposts. Then every department, activity, action etc from now until then has to work towards that goal. Makes people accountable and has a clear win/fail rather than vague "attendances are up" or "we got 14 points in qualifying instead of 9" and latching onto some statistic to show they're doing a good job.

You're right, the actual activities that work towards these goals are more interesting to you and I. No harm to have the stick to beat people with in 4 years time.
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I wonder what use they made of the other side of the envelope...
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Best of luck to the LOI teams looking to get our ranking up to 30 in 3 seasons LOL
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Best of luck to the LOI teams looking to get our ranking up to 30 in 3 seasons LOL

Yeah that is very very high ambition. I do think the quality is improving but to jump 10 places in 3-5 years...  again what are the actions being put in place to make this plan achievable versus just hoping it happens
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Best of luck to the LOI teams looking to get our ranking up to 30 in 3 seasons LOL

Yeah that is very very high ambition. I do think the quality is improving but to jump 10 places in 3-5 years...  again what are the actions being put in place to make this plan achievable versus just hoping it happens

just checked, only 70 ranking points between us at 47th and Tunisia Dead at 30th. that gap isn't that massive, for example there are 80 points between Italy in 6th and Portugal in 8th
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Originally posted by djhegzy djhegzy wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Best of luck to the LOI teams looking to get our ranking up to 30 in 3 seasons LOL

Yeah that is very very high ambition. I do think the quality is improving but to jump 10 places in 3-5 years...  again what are the actions being put in place to make this plan achievable versus just hoping it happens

just checked, only 70 ranking points between us at 47th and Tunisia Dead at 30th. that gap isn't that massive, for example there are 80 points between Italy in 6th and Portugal in 8th

It's not FIFA world rankings but UEFA Leagues coefficient.
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by djhegzy djhegzy wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Best of luck to the LOI teams looking to get our ranking up to 30 in 3 seasons LOL

Yeah that is very very high ambition. I do think the quality is improving but to jump 10 places in 3-5 years...  again what are the actions being put in place to make this plan achievable versus just hoping it happens

just checked, only 70 ranking points between us at 47th and Tunisia Dead at 30th. that gap isn't that massive, for example there are 80 points between Italy in 6th and Portugal in 8th

It's not FIFA world rankings but UEFA Leagues coefficient.

ahhh apologies LOL
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by djhegzy djhegzy wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Best of luck to the LOI teams looking to get our ranking up to 30 in 3 seasons LOL

Yeah that is very very high ambition. I do think the quality is improving but to jump 10 places in 3-5 years...  again what are the actions being put in place to make this plan achievable versus just hoping it happens

just checked, only 70 ranking points between us at 47th and Tunisia Dead at 30th. that gap isn't that massive, for example there are 80 points between Italy in 6th and Portugal in 8th

It's not FIFA world rankings but UEFA Leagues coefficient.
Yeah sorry poor wording from myself, last season was our best performance in this regard and even it were repeated for the next 3 seasons we wouldn’t be near the top 30 coefficient 
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At least the aim with the LOI shows a bit of focus on it, but as has been pointed out it's really the fundamentals of what they will do try and reach those aims that is important here. If it's just "hope the clubs keep improving" then really it's nothing, but if they actually put processes in place to grow the strength of the league then happy days. 

I'm not really sure about a 3rd tier though.
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Originally posted by notpropaganda73 notpropaganda73 wrote:

At least the aim with the LOI shows a bit of focus on it, but as has been pointed out it's really the fundamentals of what they will do try and reach those aims that is important here. If it's just "hope the clubs keep improving" then really it's nothing, but if they actually put processes in place to grow the strength of the league then happy days. 

I'm not really sure about a 3rd tier though.
I reckon a 3rd tier would have to be regionalised, like they have in Italy Serie D. You basically use MSL, LSL etc as the 3rd tier and create a proper pyramid
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3rd tier is badly needed, but talked of all prem & first division teams going professional is pie in the sky stuff 
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Selling out cup finals is a pointless inclusion. As mentioned on Twitter by John O'Connor, a better metric is to aim for a certain % increases in gates/attendances, rather than just increasing the attendance for 1 big day every year.

It will be very interesting to see what the plan to do once the facilities audit is finished. They're all sh*t, bar maybe Tallaght, so all need funding. You'd hope that they would see that providing funding for improvement of facilities will impact positively on increasing attendances.

But the financial situation of the organisation would leave me less than optimistic that any positive contribution will be made.
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

3rd tier is badly needed, but talked of all prem & first division teams going professional is pie in the sky stuff 

I just think it highlights the disconnect between the league and the association. Even clubs are coming out saying it's impractical. How can you expect to have a professional league when players depends on education/jobs to fall back on when they retire.
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Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Selling out cup finals is a pointless inclusion. As mentioned on Twitter by John O'Connor, a better metric is to aim for a certain % increases in gates/attendances, rather than just increasing the attendance for 1 big day every year.
Yeah that's a stupid one. They can have a huge marketing campaign and give free tickets to every school in the country and say they've hit that target
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Selling out cup finals is a pointless inclusion. As mentioned on Twitter by John O'Connor, a better metric is to aim for a certain % increases in gates/attendances, rather than just increasing the attendance for 1 big day every year.
Yeah that's a stupid one. They can have a huge marketing campaign and give free tickets to every school in the country and say they've hit that target

Don't even need to bother with the marketing campaign etc.

Just move the Final back to Dalymount.

Or Belfield.
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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Selling out cup finals is a pointless inclusion. As mentioned on Twitter by John O'Connor, a better metric is to aim for a certain % increases in gates/attendances, rather than just increasing the attendance for 1 big day every year.
Yeah that's a stupid one. They can have a huge marketing campaign and give free tickets to every school in the country and say they've hit that target

Don't even need to bother with the marketing campaign etc.

Just move the Final back to Dalymount.

Or Belfield.
Go compare cup final attendances between FAI and IFA. Probably fit the IFA final in Belfield alright.
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