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kevin100 
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 Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 7:26pm |
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Only put out by the World Champions too!
As for the “Dutch League dross” comment again an Irish fan is in no position to be piping up about the standard of the Dutch League when most our players are 2nd tier Championship players. People really want to tempt fate.
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BrendanD88
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 7:32pm |
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And what? The Dutch league is a poor standard. No one is arguing that any of our Championship players are genuine quality footballers! They are honest and hard working no point trying to portray them as something they’re not. Gakpo won’t be in the Liverpool side once Diaz and Jota come back from injury, it was a panic buy.
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kevin100
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 7:37pm |
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It’s not a poor standard it’s not in the Top 5 Leagues but it’s probably 6th in Europe. Some signings work out such as Lisandro Martinez or Frankie De Jong others don’t such as Vincent Jannsen and Davy Klassen. That’s the nature of every League. As for Gapko he’s come into a team that’s a complete mess. Way too early to judge him yet.
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 7:41pm |
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The Dutch league isnt poor. For what its worth im not convinced by Gakpo either. Anyone that thinks Depay is a flop is nutters. They are a class above us but we can trouble them at home i think. Still may not be enough to get any points tho.
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BrendanD88
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Again I’m pointing out the ridiculous statement that he was one of the most in form players in World Football! The Dutch league is behind the Spanish, English, Italian, German, French and Portuguese League in standards.
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Badgersboys9
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 7:50pm |
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Would agree with you there.
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dangere_here
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Going off the far more realistic ELO ranking formula, they are 4th and us 47th, which I'd say is about right. France 3, Greece 44, Gibraltar 181 https://www.eloratings.net Edited by dangere_here - 03 Feb 2023 at 8:01pm |
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E2016
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By that logic how could a top club ever have a flop? Poor Naby Keita? Was it those scouts and Klopp that picked him out or did they throw darts at a board. Gakpo is sh*te. It's alright lads, I'm sure you'll all survive the revelation.
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Greenie50
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Yeah, I would put them a little ahead of Portugal and we gave them a fright away and got a good draw at home (almost nicked a win too). Most likely outcome is 2 losses, but it's not outlandish to think we could get a result or two if we're properly at it and have everyone fit and firing. Our squad is better now than it was in 2021, more depth in the forward line. Part of what killed us vs Portugal away (aside from the Ref) was the lack of depth on the bench. Connolly-Idah-McGrath did very well, but when they got tired towards the end we had no outlet and the pressure just grew. McClean-J.Collins-Molumby were their subs on the night, & they just don't pose any threat on the counter. If we'd had the options we do now, it could have been: Ogbene for Connolly (instead of McClean) Obafemi or Ferguson for Idah (instead of J.Collins) Knight or Browne for McGrath (instead of Molumby. Then you could have Molumby in for Hendrick) That^ could have seen us hold out for the win.
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SeaSharp
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I'm not really massively sold on any international ranking system, to be honest. I don't believe Venezuela and Canada are better sides than us. Iran in 27th.. maybe, they're a weird one. I personally think they're a bit sh*te and beneficiaries of playing in a shocking region. I know its weighted and you get points based on other teams rankings but yeah.. just doesn't seem right to me.
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Nialler
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By form he was one of them... 25-30 goal contributions before the world cup even started is outrageously good in any of the mentioned leagues. It makes him a de facto in form player. Then scoring 3 goals at a world cup (as many as Robbie ever managed). Is he Haaland or Mbappe? no But you really have to act like that is what I was saying to think what I said was hyperbole. I didn't say he was one of the best players in the world. And world football means outside premier league and the super clubs too. I was clearly casting a wide net and not being hyperbolic. I can easily have said the same for Darwin or even Alvarez before he signed for city from Argentina. To call that ridiculous and hyperbolic is way OTT. Anyway Gakpo is a bloody good player with a very unusual profile. 35 mill is a snip for him, I stand by it. Edited by Nialler - 04 Feb 2023 at 6:12am |
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Badgersboys9
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 9:47am |
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Settle down pet, I actually have no interest in Gakpo.
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 10:23am |
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Keita is a quality player. His issue is staying fit.
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Greener92
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Gakpo is far from sh*te. Struggling to settle in to a fractured Liverpool team right now, but most definitely not sh*te
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Greener92
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 10:26am |
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Are you a United fan by any chance E2016?
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Badgersboys9
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Gakpo, Keita etc all sh*te but if you said that Ogbene's pass completion in the final 3rd against Huddersfield wasn't up to scratch, there would lads on here having a full blown meltdown.
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Greenie50
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So what approach should we be taking for the Latvia game? Gavin Cooney said when it was announced that we should "Expect two very different starting Irish line-ups" between Latvia & France. Given the proximity to the France game, surely first team players should be kept away from the Latvia game. So it should be an opportunity to get a look a few extra players (& given there's still holes in the squad that need addressing (backup DM, creative CM, new RWB)). Does Ferguson start vs Latvia? Get his first start, & maybe first goal, out of the way before France? Or wrap him in cotton wool and keep him away from this one? I'd like to see something like: Ferguson Parrott Smallbone Manning Coventry Hodge Sykes Lenihan Duffy Omobamidele CK/MT 45' for Ferguson, then bring on Idah for the second half. Ronan an option, Kenny is a fan & you get the impression that if he's playing regularly he'll get his chance. EDIT: Also, Ebosele off the bench. Will be interesting to see if Azaz gets a call up. Would think they'd at least want a look at him in training. Edited by Greenie50 - 05 Feb 2023 at 7:45pm |
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Nialler
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Posted: 05 Mar 2023 at 5:53pm |
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I take it back. Absolutely dreadful player
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