EURO 2024 Qualifier GROUP B

Bonehead24 wrote: None of it will matter after we top the Euro Qualifying group anyway.

Two big games in regards to seeding tonight for qualifiers

John Nice wrote: lassassinblanc wrote: Two big games in regards to seeding tonight for qualifiers Hungary beat Germany they'll be guaranteed to be Top Seeds and if Italy beat England, then England will be in Pot 2 Did I read somewhere that France could end up being 2nd seeds? Is there anywhere online you can see potential seedings/current standings?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%9323_UEFA_Nations_League_A#Overall_ranking

Top ten teams not including Germany in the overall rankings table will be top seeds. Frances win last night has lifted them back into pot 1. Can still slip back to pot two if Austria win their final game and France don't. England have to win tonight or its pot 2 for them which makes no difference for them personally with top two directly qualifying.

J89 wrote: John Nice wrote: lassassinblanc wrote: Two big games in regards to seeding tonight for qualifiers Hungary beat Germany they'll be guaranteed to be Top Seeds and if Italy beat England, then England will be in Pot 2 Did I read somewhere that France could end up being 2nd seeds? Is there anywhere online you can see potential seedings/current standings? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022%E2%80%9323_UEFA_Nations_League_A#Overall_ranking Top ten teams not including Germany in the overall rankings table will be top seeds. Frances win last night has lifted them back into pot 1. Can still slip back to pot two if Austria win their final game and France don't. England have to win tonight or its pot 2 for them which makes no difference for them personally with top two directly qualifying.

John Nice wrote: Question? Can we finish 3rd in our group on 10 points, but rank higher than Ukraine and/or Scotland in that table by virtue of having more points against the Top 3 in the Group? e.g. if we beat Scotland and they then beat Ukraine, they will top the Group, but will only have 6 pts vs our 7 when results against the bottom team are discounted? Is there not a scenario whereby we finish 3rd in the Group, but have 7 points vs the Scots 6 and Ukraine's 4 when the bottom team is discounted? That would be pretty unlucky, but I guess you gotta get your 6 points vs the weakest team.

Edited by lassassinblanc - 23 Sep 2022 at 11:27am

John Nice wrote: lassassinblanc wrote: John Nice wrote: Question? Can we finish 3rd in our group on 10 points, but rank higher than Ukraine and/or Scotland in that table by virtue of having more points against the Top 3 in the Group? e.g. if we beat Scotland and they then beat Ukraine, they will top the Group, but will only have 6 pts vs our 7 when results against the bottom team are discounted? Is there not a scenario whereby we finish 3rd in the Group, but have 7 points vs the Scots 6 and Ukraine's 4 when the bottom team is discounted? That would be pretty unlucky, but I guess you gotta get your 6 points vs the weakest team. Nope if we finish 3rd we'd be Pot 3. AFAIK So if we finish 2nd, we have a chance? Could 7pts from the 4 games be enough?

Edited by lassassinblanc - 23 Sep 2022 at 11:51am

Looking at the rankings currently and I know they are subject to huge change in the coming week. There doesnt look to be a lot between the teams currently occupying the 2nd seed spots (with the exception of England) and those in the 3rd seed spots (who we'd avoid if we end up as appears likely 3rd seeds). From our pov, we would like to see France/ENgland/Italy end up as 1st seeds to avoid a possible group of death scenario, but otherwise getting 2nd seed vs 3rd seed status doesnt look to make that big of a difference in terms of potential opposition. There will be some weakish teams in Pot 2 and some strong teams in Pot 3 whom we will avoid.

The qualifications wiki page actually shows you what pots teams can potentially still end up in as things stand.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying#Draw

Of the League B teams Sweden are the only confirmed team for pot 3 as things stand and Wales the only confirmed team in pot 2.

lassassinblanc wrote: John Nice wrote: Looking at the rankings currently and I know they are subject to huge change in the coming week. There doesnt look to be a lot between the teams currently occupying the 2nd seed spots (with the exception of England) and those in the 3rd seed spots (who we'd avoid if we end up as appears likely 3rd seeds). From our pov, we would like to see France/ENgland/Italy end up as 1st seeds to avoid a possible group of death scenario, but otherwise getting 2nd seed vs 3rd seed status doesnt look to make that big of a difference in terms of potential opposition. There will be some weakish teams in Pot 2 and some strong teams in Pot 3 whom we will avoid. I agree i'd rather avoid the possibility of a group with say France and England being the Top 2 There's team in Pot 2 currently you'd want to avoid England as previously mentioned and maybe the Swiss (though we did take points from them last campaign we played them. Let's all be honest of the current Pot 1 teams the only one we could realistically fancy getting points off would be Hungary (though they do seem to be in good form- [queue them getting hammered by Germany tonight  ] and Czechia