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Bandwagon 
Liam Brady 
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All but guaranteed.
3rd will probably be enough for one too. |
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Dalymount79
Liam Brady
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Posted: 13 Jun 2022 at 3:54pm |
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Greece have won their group and guaranteed a League C playoff spot - fair chance they could end up playing Turkiye in the playoffs.
Is that a pairing they usually don’t allow for political reasons?
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Nialler
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Posted: 13 Jun 2022 at 3:58pm |
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I really don't see the point in Kenny putting that much pressure on to win the group then. How much more of a boon is getting promoted. can't be a huge difference in attendances. He should have just said we aim to secure a playoff place
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lassassinblanc
Paul McGrath 
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Posted: 13 Jun 2022 at 4:00pm |
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Nope they can play each other Kosovo—Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo–Serbia, Kosovo–Russia, Russia–Ukraine, Armenia–Azerbaijan and Gibraltar–Spain Can't play each other for political reasons
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Artie Ziff
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Posted: 13 Jun 2022 at 10:47pm |
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Ah don't even post that as a joke
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It would damage this forums' reputation
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flaghunter
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Posted: 13 Jun 2022 at 11:08pm |
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Think you have it wrong here - we can't finish third and get promoted to second because the results against the teams in last won't be discounted within the context of our own group. They will be discounted only when working out the individual seedings of the teams that finished in, say, third place - so that groups can be compared to each other as fairly as possible.
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Have UEFA confirmed if qualifying for the playoff will be:
(1) the top 12 Nations League teams not to qualify for Euro 2204 automatically/directly, or (2) if it will be the top placed team in each Nations League group from League's A, B & C (and the next best team to fill that spot if group winner is already qualified)? I saw conflicting reports in newspaper articles from last year, and some suggested UEFA would confirm the qualifying route this summer but can't find any confirmation. |
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J89
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Posted: 17 Jun 2022 at 10:42pm |
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It's the same as it was for Euro 2020.
"The play-off berths are first allocated to each group winner, and if any of the group winners have already qualified for the European Championship finals, then to the next-best ranked team of the league." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024_qualifying_play-offs |
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Bonehead24
Ronnie Whelan 
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Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 7:15am |
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So finish first or second behind Ukraine and hope they qualify automatically next campaign?
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t_rAndy
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Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 9:46am |
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League is league A-D. We are in league B. So let's say we finish second on 10 points but Serbia from our league but in B4 group finish second on 11 then I think that means they would be ranked ahead of us and get the place. I think the last nations league, basically the top 3 from league B would be ok for a play off.
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J89
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Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 10:09am |
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Knowing us we'll win both games but still finish third on ten points. Wonder if they'll clarify what's happening regarding the three team group in League B before September or because the play offs don't happening until next year just wait a bit before deciding.
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Bonehead24
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Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 10:20am |
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If there's a 3 team group would that mean points won v the bottom team in the 4 team groups wouldn't count towards best 2nd placed?
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You Tell Me
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For the Nations League four years ago third was enough for a playoff place, but there were fewer teams - 12 in A and 12 in B, whereas it's 16 in A and 16 in B now. In the last Nations League two years ago, if the playoffs had been run on the Euros format that we're using this time, only two teams that came third in B would have got a playoff. Ireland, being the lowest ranked third placed team last time, would have missed out. So, if we finish third in the Nations League group, a high points total is important. Beating Armenia at home is a must, but a point at least in Scotland would be very helpful.
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Lenny82
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Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 10:43am |
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I think for that to happen, Scotland would have to beat Ukraine twice and top the group, meaning Ukraine would finish above us on head to head. It is more likely that we finish the campaign on 8 points, Scotland on 8 points, and Ukraine on 14, and we would be 2nd then on head to head with Scotland.
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J89
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Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 10:56am |
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Hopefully when Ukraine travel there in September they put another three past them at Hampden Park in the first game. Rightly put the pressure on Clarke before we travel over and fans will get louder in calling for him to be sacked. |
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t_rAndy
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Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 10:57am |
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Forgot that this the third nations league campaign. Ok so yeah with the more teams it's very important to come top two. That Scotland last game has a fair amount of meat on it now.
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kevin100
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Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 11:32am |
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In the last campaign a number of teams from League C went into the play offs with Iceland for League A as most the League A teams qualified! Just something to keep in mind that we may well get a League A play off place by default if we don't get a League B one.
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Bonehead24
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Posted: 18 Jun 2022 at 11:34am |
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None of it will matter after we top the Euro Qualifying group anyway.
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