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    Posted: 27 Jun 2016 at 7:06pm
only 4 years away lol and is probly relisticly our next chance of getting to a major finals (bar a balls of a qualification draw or we get to russia in 2018)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020

For the Nations League if we can get in the seed 2/3 draw and win our group than we have a backup if our main qualification campaign goes pear shaped
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This whole UEFA nations league format is terribly confusing! Who fancies explaining it all here?!
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Right for my understanding 20 teams will qualify through the normal procedure similar to how it is done was done for 2016 with 55 teams divided into 10 groups of 5 top two qualify, no playoff for third

the other four slots will be determined by teams in the UEFA Nations league who haven't qualified say Each League has 4 groups of 3 1 from each will go through.
say for example League A Group 1 had Spain, Italy and Germany and  League A Group 2 had
France, Portugal and England

Spain, Germany, Italy,France qualified via the normal procedure above. Italy would playoff against England for a spot

This would be the same for all the other divisions, meaning someone like Andorra,or San Marino could have a chance of qualifying from League D playoffs which is crazy to think



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In terms of that Group D Teams would most likely be the 12 in the groups, you'd have to fancy someone like Macedonia or Cyprus or perhaps even Kosovo to qualify for 2020 via the group D playoffs

Cyprus    
Moldova    
Macedonia    
Kazakhstan    
Luxembourg    
Liechtenstein    
Faroe Islands    
Malta    
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20 of the 24 spots for the finals tournament will be decided from the main qualifying process but no play offs this time.
10 groups and the top 2 will qualify. (We should be 2nd seeds here so need to finish top 2.)


Leaving four spots still to be decided through the Euro League.

The Euro league is split into 4 based on the UEFA co-efficients
League A 12 teams - top seeds
League B 12 teams - 2nd seeds
League C 14 teams - 3rd seeds
League D the rest- 4th seeds 

Each league gets 1 place for the EURO's so a bit of a lottery process to get through. This is were it gets messy.

All in all, it means one team from League D (Andorra, Faroe, San Marino etc) will get through which is fair enough.

If everybody from League A already qualifies, then League B get 2 places and so on.

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you mean we don't qualify automatically as co-hosts.....Angry aaah hereeeee
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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

20 of the 24 spots for the finals tournament will be decided from the main qualifying process but no play offs this time.
10 groups and the top 2 will qualify. (We should be 2nd seeds here so need to finish top 2.)


Leaving four spots still to be decided through the Euro League.

The Euro league is split into 4 based on the UEFA co-efficients
League A 12 teams - top seeds
League B 12 teams - 2nd seeds
League C 14 teams - 3rd seeds
League D the rest- 4th seeds 

Each league gets 1 place for the EURO's so a bit of a lottery process to get through. This is were it gets messy.

All in all, it means one team from League D (Andorra, Faroe, San Marino etc) will get through which is fair enough.

If everybody from League A already qualifies, then League B get 2 places and so on.


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Jesus that's very Topsy turvy I understand that it gives the smaller teams a chance...but its all over the place. Realistically if we have a terrible 2018 campaign we can pray to get into the D division which will give us a great chance of qualifying for 2020!! UEFA.....never change!!!
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Also the 4 teams that come through the Nations league and qualify will presumably not be involved in the Regular qualifying tournament? Just play friendlies for the rest of the campaign I presume? 
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Looking at the co-efficient rankings at the moment

LEAGUE A LEAGUE B LEAGUE C LEAGUE D
Germany Bosnia Norway Belarus
Spain Ukraine Slovenia Georgia
England Czech Rep Iceland Azerbaijan
Portugal Sweden Wales Lativia
Belgium Poland Scotland Cyprus
Italy Romania Albania Moldova
Netherlands Slovakia Monternegro Macedonia
France Hungary N Ireland Kazakhstan
Russia Denmark Serbia Luxembourg
Switzerland Turkey Finland Liechtenstein
Austria Ireland Bulgaria Faroe Islands
Croatia Greece Armenia Malta


Estonia Andorra


Lithunia San Marino



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As far as I know (Football Manager experience) it's an open draw of the teams no one I'd really fear from League B tbh- I know it will all change come the draw but we'd most likely still be in second league
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No- I believe they run concurrently. I think the whole idea of the NL is to get rid of meaningless friendlies and replace them with more games against teams of your own calibre
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Originally posted by edthered edthered wrote:

No- I believe they run concurrently. I think the whole idea of the NL is to get rid of meaningless friendlies and replace them with more games against teams of your own calibre


Yep, Can see us Yoyoing between League A and B tbh depending on the group we're drawn into
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Is this 2 be run every 2 years?

Therefore only every second nations league has qualification implications

In theory for the nations league in World Cup cycles you would be better off getting relegated to improve chance in the following nations league.

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Looking forward to a few more away friendlies anyway, I assume in the Nations League it would be 50/50 home and away. We seem to play far too many home friendlies
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Looking forward to a few more away friendlies anyway, I assume in the Nations League it would be 50/50 home and away. We seem to play far too many home friendlies


Aye it be home and away fixtures so two at home and two away..playoffs are neutral ground I believe


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Another good thing about this is that the normal qualifying campaign is more condensed, and not spread out over 14 or 15 months.
At the moment, and for this this Russia qual campaign,

1 match in Sept 2016
2 matches in Oct 2016
1 match in Nov 2016 (then wait 4 months until)
1 match in Mar 2017 (then wait 3 months until)
1 match in June 2017 (then wait 3 months until)
2 matches in Sept 2017
2 matches in Oct 2017
And maybe 2 playoff matches in Nov 2017.

With the new format for Euro 2020 we will play

2 matches in Sept 2018 Nations League
2 matches in Oct 2018 Nations League
2 matches in Nov 2018 Nations League

Then the Euro 2020 qual campaign proper (10 games) has

2 matches in March 2019
2 matches in June 2019
2 matches in Sept 2019
2 matches in Oct 2019
2 matches in Nov 2019

More condensed, no waiting around for months and months between matches, the Nations League will keep us occupied with 6 competitive matches in Autumn 2018 and then we have 10 qual matches in an 8/9 month span......UEFA......you genius's
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I was always in favour of bringing the qualifying campaign closer together, but the argument I was told before was that for weaker countries if a star gets injured he could miss more.

Imagine if Wales lost Bale for 2 months and missed 6/10 qualifying games
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