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    Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 5:04pm
draw to take place Sun 2nd Dec from the convention centre Dublin 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020_qualifying

The teams will be seeded based on the November 2018 UEFA Nations League overall rankings.

  • UNL Pot: Four qualified teams of the 2019 UEFA Nations League Finals
  • Pot 1: Teams ranked 5–10 in UEFA Nations League overall rankings
  • Pot 2: Teams ranked 11–20 in UEFA Nations League overall rankings
  • Pot 3: Teams ranked 21–30 in UEFA Nations League overall rankings
  • Pot 4: Teams ranked 31–40 in UEFA Nations League overall rankings
  • Pot 5: Teams ranked 41–50 in UEFA Nations League overall rankings
  • Pot 6: Teams ranked 51–55 in UEFA Nations League overall rankings

The four participants of the 2019 UEFA Nations League Finals in June 2019 will be placed in a separate pot and drawn into Groups A–D which only have five teams so that they only have to play eight qualifying matches.[1] The following restrictions will also be applied by computer assistance:

  • Host teams: In order to allow all 12 teams from the host associations to have a chance to qualify as group winners and runners-up, a maximum of two will be placed in each group: Azerbaijan, Denmark, England, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Netherlands, Republic of Ireland, Romania, Russia, Scotland, Spain.
  • Political clashes: The following pairs of teams cannot be drawn into the same group due to political clashes: Armenia / Azerbaijan, Gibraltar / Spain, Kosovo / Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo / Serbia, Ukraine / Russia.
  • Winter venues: A maximum of two teams identified as venues with high or medium risk of severe winter conditions will be placed in each group: Belarus, Estonia, Faroe Islands, Finland, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania, Norway, Russia, Ukraine.
  • Excessive travel: A maximum of one pair of teams identified with excessive travel distance in relation to other countries will be placed in each group:
    • Azerbaijan: with Gibraltar, Iceland, Portugal.
    • Iceland: with Armenia, Cyprus, Georgia, Israel.
    • Kazakhstan: with Andorra, England, France, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar, Iceland, Malta, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Republic of Ireland, Scotland, Spain, Wales.
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Wasn't aware of the travel restrictions before. Kazakhstan effectively cannot draw 20% of UEFA Nations. 
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Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

Wasn't aware of the travel restrictions before. Kazakhstan effectively cannot draw 20% of UEFA Nations. 

Yeah it's strange one
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Last games on the 20th of November so we’ll know the pots then.

We need to be in Pot 2 AND a favourable draw.

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My head hurts reading that Confused
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We aren't going to be at Euro 2020.

Hope we get some good games in Dublin
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We will finish 4th in this group under current management.

Would lose to all 1st seeds home and away.

Would lose to nearly all 2nd seeds home and away. Maybe we could take points off Iceland, but on the other hand if Germany or Croatia end up slipping into Pot 2 then we are instantly finished should we draw them.

Imagine if we were in Pot 2, so we could avoid these teams. Positives though, eh Martin?

Pot 4 teams would trouble us too - Bulgaria, Romania, Greece, Scotland would fancy themselves against us home and away. Albania and Hungary, no guarantees either. Cyprus and Montenegro are the two that we might be capable of getting 4-6 points off.

Even some of the Pot 5 teams would test us currently - Georgia off the back of 4 Nations League wins would fancy themselves against us, Slovenia would test us. Are we capable of going to Estonia/Lithuania and winning?

No doubt in my mind that we are in for one of the worst 2 years in Irish football history if we keep Delboy and Rodney in charge.

Our best chance is hoping all/most the other teams in League B automatically qualify, putting us into a play-off against the North (who are probably even worse than us) and 2 others, for 1 spot.
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I was positive earlier in the other thread but now going through that list of teams and it is depressing how low I can get where I'm thinking they wouldn't be an automatic 6 points.

Kosovo for example, a bright young side. I reckon we'd genuinely get beat over there
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Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

We will finish 4th in this group under current management.

Would lose to all 1st seeds home and away.

Would lose to nearly all 2nd seeds home and away. Maybe we could take points off Iceland, but on the other hand if Germany or Croatia end up slipping into Pot 2 then we are instantly finished should we draw them.

Imagine if we were in Pot 2, so we could avoid these teams. Positives though, eh Martin?

Pot 4 teams would trouble us too - Bulgaria, Romania, Greece, Scotland would fancy themselves against us home and away. Albania and Hungary, no guarantees either. Cyprus and Montenegro are the two that we might be capable of getting 4-6 points off.

Even some of the Pot 5 teams would test us currently - Georgia off the back of 4 Nations League wins would fancy themselves against us, Slovenia would test us. Are we capable of going to Estonia/Lithuania and winning?

No doubt in my mind that we are in for one of the worst 2 years in Irish football history if we keep Delboy and Rodney in charge.

Our best chance is hoping all/most the other teams in League B automatically qualify, putting us into a play-off against the North (who are probably even worse than us) and 2 others, for 1 spot.



Now that we will finish 3rd in our Nations League group we cannot qualify for the Euro’s through the backdoor Nations League.
We can only qualify if we finish 1st or 2 nd in the proper qualifying group next year.
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Originally posted by GB 1HughJarse GB 1HughJarse wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

We will finish 4th in this group under current management.

Would lose to all 1st seeds home and away.

Would lose to nearly all 2nd seeds home and away. Maybe we could take points off Iceland, but on the other hand if Germany or Croatia end up slipping into Pot 2 then we are instantly finished should we draw them.

Imagine if we were in Pot 2, so we could avoid these teams. Positives though, eh Martin?

Pot 4 teams would trouble us too - Bulgaria, Romania, Greece, Scotland would fancy themselves against us home and away. Albania and Hungary, no guarantees either. Cyprus and Montenegro are the two that we might be capable of getting 4-6 points off.

Even some of the Pot 5 teams would test us currently - Georgia off the back of 4 Nations League wins would fancy themselves against us, Slovenia would test us. Are we capable of going to Estonia/Lithuania and winning?

No doubt in my mind that we are in for one of the worst 2 years in Irish football history if we keep Delboy and Rodney in charge.

Our best chance is hoping all/most the other teams in League B automatically qualify, putting us into a play-off against the North (who are probably even worse than us) and 2 others, for 1 spot.



Now that we will finish 3rd in our Nations League group we cannot qualify for the Euro’s through the backdoor Nations League.
We can only qualify if we finish 1st or 2 nd in the proper qualifying group next year.


Don't think that is true.

Most of the teams in Leagues A and B will qualify automatically. Yet they still need 8 teams to fill out those play-offs. As well as 4 for League C, 4 for League D.

We will more than likely appear in those play off games.
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c. If a UEFA Nations League group winner has directly qualified for the final
tournament, the next best-ranked team in the relevant league ranking (see
Regulations of the UEFA Nations League
) which has not directly qualified will
enter the play-offs.
d. If fewer than four teams from one league enter the play-offs, the remaining
slots are allocated on the basis of the overall UEFA Nations League rankings
(see
Regulations of the UEFA Nations League
) to the best-ranked of the teams
that have not already qualified for the final tournament, subject to the
restriction that group winners cannot be in a play-off path with higher-ranked
teams.
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So what way does this work now ? To get 2nd seeds we have to hope wales beat denmark and then we beat denmark away ??
Just can't see it happening.

Fingers crossed the draw is kind to us as 3rd seeds
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Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

c. If a UEFA Nations League group winner has directly qualified for the final
tournament, the next best-ranked team in the relevant league ranking (see
Regulations of the UEFA Nations League
) which has not directly qualified will
enter the play-offs.
d. If fewer than four teams from one league enter the play-offs, the remaining
slots are allocated on the basis of the overall UEFA Nations League rankings
(see
Regulations of the UEFA Nations League
) to the best-ranked of the teams
that have not already qualified for the final tournament, subject to the
restriction that group winners cannot be in a play-off path with higher-ranked
teams.


At the moment we are 10th in the League B rankings, meaning we need

Bosnia, Ukraine, Russia,Wales, Denmark, Austria,Czech Rep, Turkey to qualify directly to be in the playoffs considering all the teams ranked 1-10 qualify too
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

c. If a UEFA Nations League group winner has directly qualified for the final
tournament, the next best-ranked team in the relevant league ranking (see
Regulations of the UEFA Nations League
) which has not directly qualified will
enter the play-offs.
d. If fewer than four teams from one league enter the play-offs, the remaining
slots are allocated on the basis of the overall UEFA Nations League rankings
(see
Regulations of the UEFA Nations League
) to the best-ranked of the teams
that have not already qualified for the final tournament, subject to the
restriction that group winners cannot be in a play-off path with higher-ranked
teams.


At the moment we are 10th in the League B rankings, meaning we need

Bosnia, Ukraine, Russia,Wales, Denmark, Austria,Czech Rep, Turkey to qualify directly to be in the playoffs considering all the teams ranked 1-10 qualify too


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Yes, but League A get a playoff spot too, and you would expect all of them to qualify automatically.

So even if a few in League B fluff their lines, a playoff spot should trickle down to us.

Which is our only hope because we will finish 4th in the campaign under current management.
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At the minute, as per my own early Weds morning calculations, the following teams are guaranteed in these pots, brackets - highly likely to be in those pots.

Pot 1 - France, Belgium, Switzerland, Portugal, Spain, (Italy, England, Dutch)

Pot 2 - Russia, Bosnia, Wales, Israel (Denmark, Iceland)

Pot 3 - Finland (OWC, Ireland)

Pot 4 - Estonia, Cyprus, Slovenia, Lithuania (Albania, Hungary)

Pot 5 - Georgia, Luxembourg, Kosovo, Macedonia, Belarus

Pot 6 - (Malta, San Marino, Andorra)

Rest up in the air by varying degrees.
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Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Yes, but League A get a playoff spot too, and you would expect all of them to qualify automatically.

So even if a few in League B fluff their lines, a playoff spot should trickle down to us.

Which is our only hope because we will finish 4th in the campaign under current management.


Yes that too, I'd say we will most likely get a playoff spot. As I'd be surprised if

France,Spain, Belgium, Portugal, Switzerland, England, Italy,Netherlands, Poland, Germany, Croatia, Iceland didn't finish in the top 2 of their groups.

the bold ones being the only one's I'd say might not


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Just on the nations league group, is it goal difference first that separates teams or head to head if we were to say finish on 4 with denmark
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