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Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Andre Marriner is the ref for the Liverpool v Man city match today.
 
What could possibly go wrong!
Did a good job in fairness to him. Let the game flow, didn't get much wrong
 
 
One of his better games.
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Jon Moss got the two important decisions right at Anfield.
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Last minute pen and?
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Last minute pen and?
The assistant ref got the last minute penalty decsion correct.
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Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Jon Moss got the two important decisions right at Anfield.

Just posted this in the Liverpool thread...

The offside for the 1st one bothers me greatly. Kane is offside from Allis pass. He's interfering with play. Does Lovrens touch negate anything that has gone before, and all of a sudden it doesn't matter who is offside behind him from the original pass? If that touch actually just makes everything from there fair game, or if Lovrens touch makes it another phase of play, the offside rule is a mockery.

In the situation above Lovren won't attempt to play the ball unless Kane is behind him. He's trying to stop the ball going through to a player who is clearly offside and who couldn't be more obviously interfering with play. A farce of a situation. The offside rule has become a bit of a shambles.


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On the above, there's one of 2 things after happening.

The refs got it right for the offside call for the first pen, in which case the offside laws are now a joke.3

or

The refs got it wrong and the touch from Lovren shouldn't negate Kane being offside from Allis pass. In which case it's desperate refereeing altogether.
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Yep, as I thought. The first penalty should be pulled back for offside from Allis pass. Lovren doesn't deliberately pass the ball back (ala Dier for Salahs first goal), he slices it. Hence it's still the same phase of play, meaning Kane is clearly offside.

Now you have a linesman telling a ref, he's offside but he's not sure if Lovren touches the ball. Even though Lovren touching the ball alone doesn't negate Kane being in an offside decision. So even after this discussion, they decide to give the goal. The standard of refereeing is absolutely appalling. They do not even know the very basic rules.


btw listening to Dermot Gallacher, a former ref, talk about the incident sums up my general feelings on the standard of referees in general and their knowledge of the rules. For him to say live on sky sports that the first penalty incident wasn't offside is embarrassing. As he's not even in the heat of battle so to speak, he's sitting in a studio post match having plenty of time to analyse that situation. 


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Killer Kilbane talking about yesterdays refereeing in the Liverpool v Spurs match on Newstalk now and he is saying Moss was right on the major decisions. 
 
More from KK on this on Off the Ball from 19.00 tonight.


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Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Killer Kilbane talking about yesterdays refereeing in the Liverpool v Spurs match on Newstalk now and he is saying Moss was right on the major decisions. 
 
More from KK on this on Off the Ball from 19.00 tonight.

Carragher is on MNF saying the first one, Kane is onside. Mark Clattenburg saying earlier today, Kane is offside. There's no doubt in my mind Kane is offside before winning the penalty.

On the second one, it's a definite penalty. VVD clearly fouls him. The problem is that Lamela is offside just before. VAR would have given offside in that situation. Also Moss actually waves it away while looking at it from only a few yards away. The linesman overrules him. Moss was comically bad yesterday LOL
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On him asking the 4th official to look at the monitor, which I presume is totally against the rules, I would say that is going on for ages and nobody has clocked it yet.
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I have no doubt. I can think of incidences easily 6 years ago when I was sure ref's were stalling on making a decision in order to get feedback from a replay. Absolutely sure of it.
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His first yellow looked very soft as well. Barely touches him, if at all for the second yellow, but I will say that once a player takes a bad touch and overs stretches like that, the refs are on high alert for that foul every time.

On the game itself, I don't think I've seen a player play as badly for 30 mins before as what Bakayoko just produced.
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Andre Marriner is in charge of the VAR at Swansea tonight what could possibly go wrong.
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