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Originally posted by EdisonCavani EdisonCavani wrote:

We need to win a match. Bosnia over England at the moment unfortunately. We have no chance against England or any of the teams in tier 1 of the Nations League at the moment. Take on someone at our level and try and win. 
We need to play someone below our level....a league C team  perhaps. Incidentally does anyone think someone in the FAI is actually aware  how this thing works and playing England would be a disaster?
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Originally posted by essharte essharte wrote:

All week people have been talking about getting seeding for the world cup. 
But now you want to lose to England? Are you mad? Losing to England unnecessarily could ruin our chances.

After tonights results we are the 20th UEFA ranked team. 
We are just hanging on 2nd seeds despite losing.



Losing to England in a friendly next game would cost us 3.16 points.
It's way too tight for that.

How much would we gain from a draw though 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Green Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2020 at 11:10pm
When you look at that post about WC seeding this would be even worse.  f**k the travel, getting humiliated by England would be an absolute disaster.  
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by essharte essharte wrote:

All week people have been talking about getting seeding for the world cup. 
But now you want to lose to England? Are you mad? Losing to England unnecessarily could ruin our chances.

After tonights results we are the 20th UEFA ranked team. 
We are just hanging on 2nd seeds despite losing.



Losing to England in a friendly next game would cost us 3.16 points.
It's way too tight for that.

How much would we gain from a draw though 


A win is +6.84, draw is +1.84, loss is -3.16

If we play Bosnia instead
A win is +4.58, draw is +0.42, loss is -5.42

Since the rankings don't factor in whether the game is home or away, we should just arrange a winnable game with anyone at home. A win against Oman would be +3.47
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Originally posted by ripbomb ripbomb wrote:

Originally posted by EdisonCavani EdisonCavani wrote:

We need to win a match. Bosnia over England at the moment unfortunately. We have no chance against England or any of the teams in tier 1 of the Nations League at the moment. Take on someone at our level and try and win. 
We need to play someone below our level....a league C team  perhaps. Incidentally does anyone think someone in the FAI is actually aware  how this thing works and playing England would be a disaster?
I’m sure they do but if there was more money on offer from UEFA from the TV pot for a match against England rather than one against Bosnia we all know what they will do. 
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When you are in a sticky spot never play stronger nations in friendly matches..

A couple of years ago the SFA thought it would be clever to play Belgium and Portugal when we were going through indifferent form. We got hammered in both games and it hurt our rankings. We were stupid to play those games.

Anyhow, if you do play England I would love it, just love it, if YBIG did manage to sneak a 1-0 win Thumbs Up
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I really hope the FAI have some idea about the rankings and don't arrange a friendly against England, or anybody half decent for that matter.

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They’d have to..... surely?
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Even without fans I’m assuming this would be a good move financially.... therefore I can’t see the FAI turning it down if offered.

In reality we need to be playing a team we can beat who have a decent ranking.

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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Getting beat out the door by Grelish, Rice and the chaps is a fitting way to end 2020


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I have no issue with this. 

Play them. We might not win but we’re not getting hammered 5-0/6-0 by these jokers. I’m not afraid of them and I would say that our lads would relish this match against England. It’s what we need IMO. 
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Nobody relishes an international friendly against anybody, except the criminally insane. 
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English papers are saying the FA are trying to get Australia to step in for New Zealand 

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Kerr was the only Irish Manager of recent years who took this into account. 
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Lads, this is all just speculation, there's no plans being made or discussed at the moment. 
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Originally posted by ErsatzThistle ErsatzThistle wrote:

When you are in a sticky spot never play stronger nations in friendly matches..

A couple of years ago the SFA thought it would be clever to play Belgium and Portugal when we were going through indifferent form. We got hammered in both games and it hurt our rankings. We were stupid to play those games.

Anyhow, if you do play England I would love it, just love it, if YBIG did manage to sneak a 1-0 win Thumbs Up

Scotland should play England, that'll sort out that unbeaten record, ask Giggs LOL
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Originally posted by garretjoseph garretjoseph wrote:

I have no issue with this. 

Play them. We might not win but we’re not getting hammered 5-0/6-0 by these jokers. I’m not afraid of them and I would say that our lads would relish this match against England. It’s what we need IMO. 
You don't think England could hammer you? We've slaughtered teams on your level such as Czech Republic Bulgaria Montenegro.  If it was at Wembley it would probably be a 4 or 5-0 scoreline 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote reddladd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 12:26pm
When did England last beat Ireland never mind hammer them??
I could agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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