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    Posted: 13 Mar 2023 at 10:02pm
Just finished watching the third episode of this on sky.

Knew a lot of the content but some surprises.
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Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Just finished watching the third episode of this on sky.

Knew a lot of the content but some surprises.
What did you think DM ? I was at a do in Dublin at the weekend and it was discussed, the view of the people who watched it said it was total rubbish, so badly done that it was funny. I've only watched the first episode and that was enough for me. 
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Terribly made I thought 
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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by Double Maxim Double Maxim wrote:

Just finished watching the third episode of this on sky.

Knew a lot of the content but some surprises.
What did you think DM ? I was at a do in Dublin at the weekend and it was discussed, the view of the people who watched it said it was total rubbish, so badly done that it was funny. I've only watched the first episode and that was enough for me. 
 

It didn't really show a great deal of new insight that I thought it would have focused on.

I'm sure people on here from Dublin of a certain age could have given a better insight.

Didn't like how the Dunne family were glorified in parts.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Terribly made I thought 

Have only seen the first episode but I thought it was reasonably well made.

The dramatisations were brutal but they're never usually great. How hard is it to get actual actors from Dublin rather than someone butchering a Dublin accent.

There was a lot of archive footage I hadn't seen before so I enjoyed that.
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Never heard of this - where can you watch it?
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Found it unwatchable to be honest, all for getting first hand accounts but I felt they were totally glorifying themselves and making it seem like they weren't drug dealers.

Nicola Talents excellent podcast did an interview with a few of the characters recently which I found far more insigthful
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Never heard of this - where can you watch it?
 


On sky.
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I thought it was decent but a bit of a wasted opportunity. Sky obviously have a big budget and great documentary making capabilities so they didn’t make the most of the potential.

It had a bit of a “Banged Up Abroad” vibe to the production. 

As said above, the re-enactments were brutal! They might play better to a non Irish audience who can’t tell the difference in the accents. 

The topic of drugs and gangland in Dublin is so broad that they had to take a bit of an overview with a more granular focus on only a few specific storylines (the Dunnes, Gilligan and Guerin) to fit it into 3 episodes. I didn’t know the majority of the contributors either. Some of them were entertaining or worth listening to (Dean Scurry, Lynn Ruane, Tony Curry).
Interesting to see Noirin O Sullivan being interviewed,
I never knew that she was part of the Drug Squad. 
The Dunne brother was such an obvious spoofer that he rendered his testimony irrelevant in terms of content. 

I enjoyed the second episode as I was into the rave and dance scene. 

I don’t know about anyone being “glamourised”. Most of them had cautionary tales and the gangsters were shown as ruthless and dangerous.

There’s prob a bit of bias as I enjoy watching stuff about Dublin general but I’d give it a 6/10


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As Shedite said the SW Crime podcast about this featured the hairdresser Paul Tracey who was in episode 1 of DN and his contention based on his experience was that heroin first appeared in Dublin in UCD in the late 70s early 80s brought in by students who first discovered it in London. I'm of an age to remember the mid 80s and the heavy drug scene was mainly centralised in the flat complexes in the underprivileged parts of town - Theresa's, Fatima, Hardwicke St, Corporation Buildings and in Ballymun and parts of Dun Laoghaire. Anyone with their heads screwed on knew where to avoid around town. Heroin in my experience was not prevalent in the pub scene and in the pre mobile phone era if you wanted it you had to search it out. There was a number of telephone boxes outside Abrakebabra on O'Connell Bridge which had a steady stream of addicts ringing dealers, they'd put sh*te in the return money collection box, so ordinary joes would leave their money their and the addicts would get it.
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