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Originally posted by kearney304 kearney304 wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by kearney304 kearney304 wrote:

Originally posted by flaghunter flaghunter wrote:

Traditionally, the first leg away from home is seen as an advantage.

But with our setup of only attacking when we need to score, being at home first would give us more time attacking away from home where away goals count double.
The possibility of extra time would add to this argument.

For example, defend the first leg and it finishes goalless. Second leg we fall one behind - at home we need to score twice when we finally decide to attack, away one goal sends us through.

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I can see both sides to this post. If you asked me though - gun to my head I think play away first. Worked for Bosnia, Estonia and Iran. Albeit weaker teams. I think we could will try keep it tight regardless because the quality of the 4 teams are better than some of the Euro playoffs. Probably be 0-0 away. Then try win 1-0 at the Aviva. Both games will be cagey affairs. Not like we will actually go for any of these teams. Say we drew Croatia. Kept it very tight, 0-0. Their fans would be going crazy. They would under HUGE pressure coming to Dublin. We would again keep it tight for at least an hour and then try nick it. I could see definitely see that working. 

Other question is this - have we got lucky too many times? I believe anyways and I'm sure the players do. I'd imagine as soon as the draw is made the DOOM & GLOOM brigade will be out. 

We were home to Iran first. 

Apologies - couldn't remember and couldn't be arsed googling it 



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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by kearney304 kearney304 wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by kearney304 kearney304 wrote:

Originally posted by flaghunter flaghunter wrote:

Traditionally, the first leg away from home is seen as an advantage.

But with our setup of only attacking when we need to score, being at home first would give us more time attacking away from home where away goals count double.
The possibility of extra time would add to this argument.

For example, defend the first leg and it finishes goalless. Second leg we fall one behind - at home we need to score twice when we finally decide to attack, away one goal sends us through.

What do other ybiggers think?




I can see both sides to this post. If you asked me though - gun to my head I think play away first. Worked for Bosnia, Estonia and Iran. Albeit weaker teams. I think we could will try keep it tight regardless because the quality of the 4 teams are better than some of the Euro playoffs. Probably be 0-0 away. Then try win 1-0 at the Aviva. Both games will be cagey affairs. Not like we will actually go for any of these teams. Say we drew Croatia. Kept it very tight, 0-0. Their fans would be going crazy. They would under HUGE pressure coming to Dublin. We would again keep it tight for at least an hour and then try nick it. I could see definitely see that working. 

Other question is this - have we got lucky too many times? I believe anyways and I'm sure the players do. I'd imagine as soon as the draw is made the DOOM & GLOOM brigade will be out. 


We were home to Iran first. 


Apologies - couldn't remember and couldn't be arsed googling it 



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Anyway, I think we'd be better off at home 1st - keep a clean sheet at home and head over to the away leg not having to worry about conceding a costly away goal and maybe do a 'Cardiff' - and put all the pressure on the other team to find 2 goals.

Sure, the idea of a noisy home crowd for the 2nd leg (especially if it goes the distance) would be great but it's only really useful if we can get goals, which unfortunately is our weakness atm. if we were to concede an away goal we'd be goosed, having to find 2 goals when we're struggling just to get 1.

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Defo home first. We are usually awful at home these days. Much better off to be away second leg, be written off after the uninspiring first leg home performance and then pull something out of the bag miraculously away from home. 
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Away first. We've proved to be a better team away in this campaign. Away result including a goal is vital. Bosnia proved the point. We need to aggresive at home, but our manager only did that for the Serbia game.
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Conflicted, I feel it would suit us better to play away 2nd, but I wouldn't be able to fly home and back for the home leg on the Thursday with an exam on Friday morning Dead LOL
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Originally posted by moanermufc moanermufc wrote:

Conflicted, I feel it would suit us better to play away 2nd, but I wouldn't be able to fly home and back for the home leg on the Thursday with an exam on Friday morning Dead LOL


Home leg first. If your education was doing you any good you would have had the foresight to know that any course planning exams around WC play-offs was a non-starter.
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Originally posted by SportingRizzlaCF SportingRizzlaCF wrote:

Originally posted by moanermufc moanermufc wrote:

Conflicted, I feel it would suit us better to play away 2nd, but I wouldn't be able to fly home and back for the home leg on the Thursday with an exam on Friday morning Dead LOL


Home leg first. If your education was doing you any good you would have had the foresight to know that any course planning exams around WC play-offs was a non-starter.

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Originally posted by moanermufc moanermufc wrote:

Originally posted by SportingRizzlaCF SportingRizzlaCF wrote:

Originally posted by moanermufc moanermufc wrote:

Conflicted, I feel it would suit us better to play away 2nd, but I wouldn't be able to fly home and back for the home leg on the Thursday with an exam on Friday morning Dead LOL


Home leg first. If your education was doing you any good you would have had the foresight to know that any course planning exams around WC play-offs was a non-starter.




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Depends on who we get

Tournament heavyweights like Italy id prefer to play away first. will never forget leaving Crocker after France in 09 and travelling to Paris thinking of the mountain we had to climb after Anelkas deflected goal, it's a pity we came up short after the spirited performance in the away leg and cheated out. But that's in the past..

I want Swiss or Danes and to play either away first and bully them the same way as Bosnia double header panned out. This is the most viable scenario imo.
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Would always want to be away first but in a strange campaign we have been much better away from home. On that basis home first- 0-0 draw likely then go for a 1-1 away.
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Originally posted by baresi41 baresi41 wrote:

Away first. We've proved to be a better team away in this campaign. Away result including a goal is vital. Bosnia proved the point.


This campaign:

Georgia(a), Serbia(a)

Last campaign:

Georgia(a), Scotland(a), Poland (a)

All either crap results and/or crap performances. With no Hoolahan.

We haven't been much better away from home. Winning in Wales against Barnsley and Bristol Rovers finest is one thing. Winning in Italy/Zagreb against world class players is something else.

Go away first, hoof and hack our way to a 0-0. Nick a goal at home in the last 10 minutes off a 40 yard agricultural hoof, Party Time.
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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by baresi41 baresi41 wrote:

Away first. We've proved to be a better team away in this campaign. Away result including a goal is vital. Bosnia proved the point.


This campaign:

Georgia(a), Serbia(a)

Last campaign:

Georgia(a), Scotland(a), Poland (a)

All either crap results and/or crap performances. With no Hoolahan.

We haven't been much better away from home. Winning in Wales against Barnsley and Bristol Rovers finest is one thing. Winning in Italy/Zagreb against world class players is something else.

Go away first, hoof and hack our way to a 0-0. Nick a goal at home in the last 10 minutes off a 40 yard agricultural hoof, Party Time.




Unbeaten away from home and beat both Austria and Wales whilst being beaten at home once by Serbia and drawing the other 2 games against the top seeds. We have been shocking at home. Far far better away but thats the type of football we play it suits being away. Worst case scenario for me is Croatia away first.

Edited by Stickittotheman - 16 Oct 2017 at 10:18pm
Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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When O'Neill brought Celtic to 2003 Uefa Cup final they played at home first in every single round:

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FK Suduva (h) 8-1 (a) 2-0
Blackburn (h) 1-0 (a) 2-0
Celta Vigo (h) 1-0 (a) 1-2
Stuttgart (h) 3-1 (a) 2-3
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It not as important as some make out. Have to do the business in both legs anyway. Playing away 1st in our last 2 playoffs worked out good for us but the opposition were a lot weaker than what we could potentially draw tomorrow 
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Originally posted by donegalcelt donegalcelt wrote:

When O'Neill brought Celtic to 2003 Uefa Cup final they played at home first in every single round:

2002/03 Uefa Cup

FK Suduva (h) 8-1 (a) 2-0
Blackburn (h) 1-0 (a) 2-0
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Liverpool (h) 1-1 (a) 2-0
Boavista (h) 1-1 (a) 1-0
We are Ireland not Celtic and O Neill took us to France last summer after playing the 1st leg of the playoff away so I dont really get your point 
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Defo home first. We are usually awful at home these days. Much better off to be away second leg, be written off after the uninspiring first leg home performance and then pull something out of the bag miraculously away from home. 


Agreed I would take a 0-0 at home now knowing that the other tram would basically have to beat us to go through. I think away goals could be our best route to qualify
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Trapped Trapped wrote:

Defo home first. We are usually awful at home these days. Much better off to be away second leg, be written off after the uninspiring first leg home performance and then pull something out of the bag miraculously away from home. 


Agreed I would take a 0-0 at home now knowing that the other tram would basically have to beat us to go through. I think away goals could be our best route to qualify

The luas has speed on its side though. Even though it's a little inconsistent, I wouldn't fancy our chances to be honest. Whether they played the home leg on the red line or the green line, (the new line won't be ready on time for the match) we can expect a tough game.
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Originally posted by SportingRizzlaCF SportingRizzlaCF wrote:

Originally posted by moanermufc moanermufc wrote:

Originally posted by SportingRizzlaCF SportingRizzlaCF wrote:

Originally posted by moanermufc moanermufc wrote:

Conflicted, I feel it would suit us better to play away 2nd, but I wouldn't be able to fly home and back for the home leg on the Thursday with an exam on Friday morning Dead LOL


Home leg first. If your education was doing you any good you would have had the foresight to know that any course planning exams around WC play-offs was a non-starter.




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