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Away first im hoping for. Think it would be good home second to have the crowd behind us. Like Bosnia 2 years ago.
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Originally posted by Gabrieléire Gabrieléire wrote:

Away first im hoping for. Think it would be good home second to have the crowd behind us. Like Bosnia 2 years ago.

I'd say the complete opposite, away fans create more of an atmosphere for the team than most of the homes, the 'want to be one be entertained' sat on their hands most of game brigade can and probably will project their nervousness on to the players.

It's a fanciful dream that from the first minute to the last that you'll have the entire crowd cheering them on imo.
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Plus there is this stupid notion that 0-0 away from home int he 1st leg is a good result. No away goals meaning you will have to score at least twice at home if you concede 1.

I prefer knowing exactly what you have to do int he away leg and knowing exactly how many away goals are needed.  Ireland usually perform best when they know what they have to do..
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Home first, if we took a 0-0 away even, would fancy us to grab a goal and cling on for dear life.
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Plus there is this stupid notion that 0-0 away from home int he 1st leg is a good result. No away goals meaning you will have to score at least twice at home if you concede 1.

I prefer knowing exactly what you have to do int he away leg and knowing exactly how many away goals are needed.  Ireland usually perform best when they know what they have to do..

I prefer the away leg first but we simply need to score away as 0-0 is always a dangerous result to take home. 
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0-0 is a total waste away.  We will definitely concede at least 1 goal over 2 legs agianst a decent team.


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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

A lot of this team have experienced play-off success before so we need to be positive.

We should be looking to go away first knowing what is then required at home. The possibility of ET/Peno's is also an extra advantage to have the 2nd leg at home.


No it's not. Away team has extra 30 minutes to score an away goal. ET being at home is a major disadvantage.

I did mention we need to be positive and not be afraid.

Why do Uefa REWARD teams who finish top of their groups in the champ league the 2nd leg at home??? 

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Originally posted by flaghunter flaghunter wrote:

Traditionally, the first leg away from home is seen as an advantage.

But with our setup of only attacking when we need to score, being at home first would give us more time attacking away from home where away goals count double.
The possibility of extra time would add to this argument.

For example, defend the first leg and it finishes goalless. Second leg we fall one behind - at home we need to score twice when we finally decide to attack, away one goal sends us through.

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I can see both sides to this post. If you asked me though - gun to my head I think play away first. Worked for Bosnia, Estonia and Iran. Albeit weaker teams. I think we could will try keep it tight regardless because the quality of the 4 teams are better than some of the Euro playoffs. Probably be 0-0 away. Then try win 1-0 at the Aviva. Both games will be cagey affairs. Not like we will actually go for any of these teams. Say we drew Croatia. Kept it very tight, 0-0. Their fans would be going crazy. They would under HUGE pressure coming to Dublin. We would again keep it tight for at least an hour and then try nick it. I could see definitely see that working. 

Other question is this - have we got lucky too many times? I believe anyways and I'm sure the players do. I'd imagine as soon as the draw is made the DOOM & GLOOM brigade will be out. 
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

0-0 is a total waste away.  We will definitely concede at least 1 goal over 2 legs agianst a decent team.


 

Don't be so negative 

So if we drew 0-0 away in Italy or Croatia that wouldn't be a good result?


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Originally posted by kearney304 kearney304 wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

0-0 is a total waste away.  We will definitely concede at least 1 goal over 2 legs agianst a decent team.


 

Don't be so negative 

So if we drew 0-0 away in Italy or Croatia that wouldn't be a good result?

Would be better to lose 2-1 than draw 0-0. 
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by kearney304 kearney304 wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

0-0 is a total waste away.  We will definitely concede at least 1 goal over 2 legs agianst a decent team.


 

Don't be so negative 

So if we drew 0-0 away in Italy or Croatia that wouldn't be a good result?

Would be better to lose 2-1 than draw 0-0. 
Don't think so win the return 3-2 and out , now the after the 0-0 away any win at home and we would be off to Russia .
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Away first definitely. Don't see the point in seeding teams if they don't get the option in lieu of it.

Hard to know what they are at

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Originally posted by kearney304 kearney304 wrote:

Originally posted by flaghunter flaghunter wrote:

Traditionally, the first leg away from home is seen as an advantage.

But with our setup of only attacking when we need to score, being at home first would give us more time attacking away from home where away goals count double.
The possibility of extra time would add to this argument.

For example, defend the first leg and it finishes goalless. Second leg we fall one behind - at home we need to score twice when we finally decide to attack, away one goal sends us through.

What do other ybiggers think?

I can see both sides to this post. If you asked me though - gun to my head I think play away first. Worked for Bosnia, Estonia and Iran. Albeit weaker teams. I think we could will try keep it tight regardless because the quality of the 4 teams are better than some of the Euro playoffs. Probably be 0-0 away. Then try win 1-0 at the Aviva. Both games will be cagey affairs. Not like we will actually go for any of these teams. Say we drew Croatia. Kept it very tight, 0-0. Their fans would be going crazy. They would under HUGE pressure coming to Dublin. We would again keep it tight for at least an hour and then try nick it. I could see definitely see that working. 

Other question is this - have we got lucky too many times? I believe anyways and I'm sure the players do. I'd imagine as soon as the draw is made the DOOM & GLOOM brigade will be out. 

We were home to Iran first. 
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I reckon if you lose the first leg at home by more than 1 (without scoring a goal) you're pretty much f**ked

Italy or Croatia could do damage as so old the Swiss and Danes too but the former are more likely to have tie won won by the start of the 2nd leg

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Home first.  I prefer the idea of drawing 0-0 at home and then having a one-off away game where one goal forces the opposition into scoring 2. We are more than capable away from home.  
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Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

I reckon if you lose the first leg at home by more than 1 (without scoring a goal) you're pretty much f**ked

Italy or Croatia could do damage as so old the Swiss and Danes too but the former are more likely to have series won by the start of the 2nd leg
The series won! Never heard that one before for a World Cup game! Maybe the "tie won" would be the word your looking for

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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by kearney304 kearney304 wrote:

Originally posted by flaghunter flaghunter wrote:

Traditionally, the first leg away from home is seen as an advantage.

But with our setup of only attacking when we need to score, being at home first would give us more time attacking away from home where away goals count double.
The possibility of extra time would add to this argument.

For example, defend the first leg and it finishes goalless. Second leg we fall one behind - at home we need to score twice when we finally decide to attack, away one goal sends us through.

What do other ybiggers think?

I can see both sides to this post. If you asked me though - gun to my head I think play away first. Worked for Bosnia, Estonia and Iran. Albeit weaker teams. I think we could will try keep it tight regardless because the quality of the 4 teams are better than some of the Euro playoffs. Probably be 0-0 away. Then try win 1-0 at the Aviva. Both games will be cagey affairs. Not like we will actually go for any of these teams. Say we drew Croatia. Kept it very tight, 0-0. Their fans would be going crazy. They would under HUGE pressure coming to Dublin. We would again keep it tight for at least an hour and then try nick it. I could see definitely see that working. 

Other question is this - have we got lucky too many times? I believe anyways and I'm sure the players do. I'd imagine as soon as the draw is made the DOOM & GLOOM brigade will be out. 

We were home to Iran first. 

Apologies - couldn't remember and couldn't be arsed googling it 
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