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great watch last night.like was said I couldn’t believe some of the tackles he took...especially in the early days of his time at Napoli...I just couldn’t see Messi trive in that type of game,some defenders nowadays seem to have too much respect to even tackle Messi now.those lads back then would of cut him in half.what comes across last night is how poorly Napoli treated him in the end..essentially he was shafted by the mafia who controlled the club..you can’t help but pity him in some of the scenes last night.
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 His life looked hell to me.
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Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

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Napoli's stadium looks the exact same, even the seats.


They only recently put in new seats for the first time.  It was exact same as Italia 90 until a year or so ago

A lot of it has been closed for years as it fell into disrepair, they added a third tier for the World Cup along with the roof, that tier has been completely closed off for an awful long time and remains closed now even after the renovations, capacity down to only about 50k now.

Italia 90 really came at the wrong time for Italian football facility wise, government and councils spent millions on big concrete stadiums, only for a few years later all new stadiums started adding the corporate element into it, Italian stadiums just got left behind

I love going to games in Italy because there's no corporate areas. In the UK they have avacados and popcorn, in Italy they have flares and smoke canisters.
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

 His life looked hell to me.

The scene after they win the World Cup and are returning to Buenos Aires is so claustrophobic, barely has room to breathe. Dealing with that since his mid-to-late teens, no wonder he's ended up like he has.

It's pure showmanship, but I love the stare down from the Argies during GSTQ in that game in '86.
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Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Napoli's stadium looks the exact same, even the seats.


They only recently put in new seats for the first time.  It was exact same as Italia 90 until a year or so ago

A lot of it has been closed for years as it fell into disrepair, they added a third tier for the World Cup along with the roof, that tier has been completely closed off for an awful long time and remains closed now even after the renovations, capacity down to only about 50k now.

Italia 90 really came at the wrong time for Italian football facility wise, government and councils spent millions on big concrete stadiums, only for a few years later all new stadiums started adding the corporate element into it, Italian stadiums just got left behind

I love going to games in Italy because there's no corporate areas. In the UK they have avacados and popcorn, in Italy they have flares and smoke canisters.


Would be my preference too, but it's one of the reasons why Italian football fell behind.

Look at Juve now, first Serie A team to own their own ground

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Always loved Maradona. Mainly due to the fact that I was young enough when the 82 and 86 world cups were on. Different era and a time when world cups meant seeing players you have never heard of before. Few of us knew anything about Brazil in 82 until they played their first game of the tournament. Same with most teams bar England Scotland etc
I would still have Maradona ahead of Messi for his impact and what he achieved. 
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Yeah Zico was the only Brasilian we’d heard of prior to 82.

I know it was 86 but J O S I M A R R R R R R
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Was he the lad who scored the screamer against Scotland. 
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It was against our friends in the north.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

It was against our friends in the north.

David Narey actually scored a screamer for Scotland against Brazil in '82 which reddlad might be thinking of. It just annoyed them and they rarttled in four after. 


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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

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It was against our friends in the north.

David Narey actually scored a screamer for Scotland against Brazil in '82 which reddlad might be thinking of. It just annoyed them and they rarttled in four after. 


Jimmy Hill called it a toe-poke, which was the main reason for his hatred from those north of the wall and the questioning of his sexuality.

Edit: two cracking jerseys there. 


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Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

Was he the lad who scored the screamer against Scotland. 
Got one against the North and another against Poland, I think.
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Originally posted by JUICEBOMB JUICEBOMB wrote:

great watch last night.like was said I couldn’t believe some of the tackles he took...especially in the early days of his time at Napoli...I just couldn’t see Messi trive in that type of game,some defenders nowadays seem to have too much respect to even tackle Messi now.those lads back then would of cut him in half.what comes across last night is how poorly Napoli treated him in the end..essentially he was shafted by the mafia who controlled the club..you can’t help but pity him in some of the scenes last night.



Maradona over Messi all day long, both all time greats and by far the best of their generations......but Maradona had that extra law of attraction element, an explosive character......Messi to be quite blunt is a bit bland

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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

Was he the lad who scored the screamer against Scotland. 
Got one against the North and another against Poland, I think.

Aye, my mistake. 
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Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by JUICEBOMB JUICEBOMB wrote:

great watch last night.like was said I couldn’t believe some of the tackles he took...especially in the early days of his time at Napoli...I just couldn’t see Messi trive in that type of game,some defenders nowadays seem to have too much respect to even tackle Messi now.those lads back then would of cut him in half.what comes across last night is how poorly Napoli treated him in the end..essentially he was shafted by the mafia who controlled the club..you can’t help but pity him in some of the scenes last night.



Maradona over Messi all day long, both all time greats and by far the best of their generations......but Maradona had that extra law of attraction element, an explosive character......Messi to be quite blunt is a bit bland
When you take into account the pressure he was under to perform, all the time, it has to be Diego. Not to mention playing at that level with a cocaine problem. Phenomenal.
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There's no way either would have survived at the elite level in the time of the other. Messi would have been kicked out of the game before leaving Argentina and Maradona would have ended up like Antonio Cassano (that's an exaggeration but not much tbh). At best, Maradona might have ended up like Neymar but he probably wouldn't have reached that level with his issues.


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I disagree regarding Maradona; the issues were only there due to the pressure to perform. Maradona, at a modern day club like Barcelona is today,  wouldn’t have had the same responsibilities, or felt them. That isn’t to say there isn’t a pressure to perform, but there is everything in place to make it the only pressure. There is an argument that the boredom may have driven a man of his personality mad, but I’m not sure that side of his personality would have been allowed to develop. 
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ah SD there’s no way you can compare Maradona and Neymar.  That’s like comparing Justin Bieber to Ozzy Osbourne
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