Denmark vs Ireland 07/06/19

Hans Moleman wrote: Just to clarify, I don't hate Mick McCarthy. I do think he's a very poor football manager at best. I don't try to hide my thoughts on him ever. I do hate the fact that he is the Irish manager again though, which is a totally different thing. No doubt in 6 odd months time, a lot will see this campaign as another one confined to the gutter as we made a managerial appointment based on sentiment and a PR spin job to keep John Delaney in tact. For all that, I can recognise when we play well and when we play poorly. We were absolutely abysmal against Gibraltar. Some of the worst stuff I've seen us play. We played well against Georgia and the most refreshing thing was the intent of the side. The attitude was spot on, and for that McCarthy deserves huge credit. It was Georgia at home though. The easiest of the 6 fixtures we effectively face in this group (nobody should be even looking at the Gibraltar results). For me, that standard of performance allied with that starting 11 against the Swiss and Danes home and away would do exceptionally well to get us 1 point if not 2 from those 4 fixtures. I wouldn't put us as even close to banker for winning away to Georgia based on what I've seen so far. So my point stands and is very much based in reality. A midfield 5 named above with McGoldrick ahead of them might just about get the job done against Georgia at home, but it will be embarrassed away to Denmark. Whelan will not be able to cover the holes left by our other midfielders as he did against Georgia. That defense will give up countless chances (Georgia got a few while playing terribly) and McGoldrick will get nothing like the space he had the other night. Totally different level of opposition in the next game.  Oh and I'm perfectly relaxed, thank you very much.

Hans Moleman wrote: I would seriously worry for some Irish fans. The lack of realism in the above post is something else. You say the 5-1 defeat was a freak result. I could say those other games that were draws were very much the freak results, and I'd have much more merit in saying that than yourself as the performances and every single stat going will show we could and should have lost every game comfortably (the possible exception being WC playoff 0-0 that was a proper stalemate iirc). I can perfectly understand the enthusiasm after the win against Georgia. It was a good performance. And that bare no resemblance at all to the toxic performances of the 18 months odd that had gone before. In saying all that, it was Georgia. They are no world beaters and neither are we.  If we go to Denmark with that midfield, we will come away embarrassed. People are getting way ahead of themselves more based on the darkness that has gone before, than our performance against Georgia. That was a level of performance that the Swiss and Danes will comfortably dispose of us, make no bones about that. Massive improvements, and plenty of personnel changes will be required to get anything out of the 4 games vs the Swiss and the Danes.

Agree with the above.

Edited by Roberto Baggio - 29 Mar 2019 at 9:20am

So according to Hans. The freak result wasn't the 5-1 where as has been pointed out MON went loolah at HT with the subs but the other 3 games that we drew 

Edited by Denis Irwin - 29 Mar 2019 at 10:32am

pre Madonna wrote: I don’t think we will get hammered out there, it just isn’t our way, but two of those three draws come with disclaimers. The first NL draw was a more than acceptable result for the Danes having beaten Wales, while the second one was a complete dead rubber. The Danes will be expecting to beat us at home this time and probably will. Their draw in Switzerland makes it less of a ‘must win’ for them, which might help us though.

Hans, you are difficult to listen to. You should change your name to MON Junior.

I reckon the Handicap betting for Denmark vs Ireland will be Denmark-1 and Ireland +1. Denmark are definitely favourites to win at home but they do struggle to break teams down that defend deep. In 3/4 games we played against them it ended 0-0. As we all know O’Neill had no game plan just 10 men behind the ball and lump it long and hope for a mistake by the opposition or win a set piece. Denmark do struggle when teams go ultra negative against them. Montenegro beat them 1-0 in Denmark. I hope Mick has a proper game plan and puts them under pressure like against Georgia but I’d bite your hand off for another 0-0 and the players know how to get it.

Well it won’t be more than Denmark-2 and Ireland +2. They thrashed us 5-1 once but in the other 3 games failed to score.

I think Denmark are a cut above us but it we're set up right with a clear plan and the players know their roles, then we can get a draw.