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Originally posted by Crap senior Crap senior wrote:

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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Declan Rice - a midfielder good enough to bring Ireland closer to being able to compete for possession with the likes of Serbia, Switzerland and Denmark. 

Not a midfielder good enough to bridge the midfield gap between England and the other top European teams. 

He has just turned 20 years of age, what an utter ridiculous statement to make Confused 

Rice has massive potential and if he continues on this upward trajectory he could find himself at one of Englands top clubs within the next season or two.

England right now are amongst the top 5/6 teams in Europe anyhow, as painful as that is for many on here to admit. 


I still think against the likes of Spain, Germany, France, Portugal  that their lack of a real top class playmaker will cost them.

Most overrated England team of all time. 

Would expect the French, Germans and Dutch to all beat them by two goals in a proper tournament game. 

Don’t want to hear how them beating Spain in the Nations League is a big deal. For the smaller sides the NL is a chance to make the play-offs. For the top teams it’s not much more than a heap of inconvenient friendlies. 





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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by Crap senior Crap senior wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Declan Rice - a midfielder good enough to bring Ireland closer to being able to compete for possession with the likes of Serbia, Switzerland and Denmark. 

Not a midfielder good enough to bridge the midfield gap between England and the other top European teams. 

He has just turned 20 years of age, what an utter ridiculous statement to make Confused 

Rice has massive potential and if he continues on this upward trajectory he could find himself at one of Englands top clubs within the next season or two.

England right now are amongst the top 5/6 teams in Europe anyhow, as painful as that is for many on here to admit. 


I still think against the likes of Spain, Germany, France, Portugal  that their lack of a real top class playmaker will cost them.

Most overrated England team of all time. 

Would expect the French, Germans and Dutch to all beat them by two goals in a proper tournament game. 

Don’t want to hear how them beating Spain in the Nations League is a big deal. For the smaller sides the NL is a chance to make the play-offs. For the top teams it’s not much more than a heap of inconvenient friendlies. 


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This fella will be as good as Roy Keane

No chance. Keane was awesome. 


Rice is just as good and will only get better

Ok so you keep believing that.
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by Crap senior Crap senior wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Declan Rice - a midfielder good enough to bring Ireland closer to being able to compete for possession with the likes of Serbia, Switzerland and Denmark. 

Not a midfielder good enough to bridge the midfield gap between England and the other top European teams. 

He has just turned 20 years of age, what an utter ridiculous statement to make Confused 

Rice has massive potential and if he continues on this upward trajectory he could find himself at one of Englands top clubs within the next season or two.

England right now are amongst the top 5/6 teams in Europe anyhow, as painful as that is for many on here to admit. 


I still think against the likes of Spain, Germany, France, Portugal  that their lack of a real top class playmaker will cost them.

Most overrated England team of all time. 

Would expect the French, Germans and Dutch to all beat them by two goals in a proper tournament game. 

Don’t want to hear how them beating Spain in the Nations League is a big deal. For the smaller sides the NL is a chance to make the play-offs. For the top teams it’s not much more than a heap of inconvenient friendlies. 





And if they had lost tonight we would be gloating. They have a very good team, even if I find them quite monotonous to watch. The question is how good they are, but they are certainly one of the top teams in Europe.
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Plenty of delusional talk on here as always regarding England 

It’s not a crime or doesn’t make you any less Irish to admit they’re very good

I even read on here over the weekend that we’d give them a good game LOL


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This fella will be as good as Roy Keane

No chance. Keane was awesome. 


Rice is just as good and will only get better
just another reason to slate Keane and o Neill because they didn't cap rice. 
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Do you know who did cap rice though? Tony Adams 
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Originally posted by Crap senior Crap senior wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

This fella will be as good as Roy Keane

No chance. Keane was awesome. 


Rice is just as good and will only get better
just another reason to slate Keane and o Neill because they didn't cap rice. 


Keane and MON were muppets.    But Rice will be the England captain withing 2-3yrs and be playing for a top 4 club in Europe.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by Crap senior Crap senior wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Declan Rice - a midfielder good enough to bring Ireland closer to being able to compete for possession with the likes of Serbia, Switzerland and Denmark. 

Not a midfielder good enough to bridge the midfield gap between England and the other top European teams. 

He has just turned 20 years of age, what an utter ridiculous statement to make Confused 

Rice has massive potential and if he continues on this upward trajectory he could find himself at one of Englands top clubs within the next season or two.

England right now are amongst the top 5/6 teams in Europe anyhow, as painful as that is for many on here to admit. 


I still think against the likes of Spain, Germany, France, Portugal  that their lack of a real top class playmaker will cost them.

Most overrated England team of all time. 

Would expect the French, Germans and Dutch to all beat them by two goals in a proper tournament game. 

Don’t want to hear how them beating Spain in the Nations League is a big deal. For the smaller sides the NL is a chance to make the play-offs. For the top teams it’s not much more than a heap of inconvenient friendlies. 





And if they had lost tonight we would be gloating. They have a very good team, even if I find them quite monotonous to watch. The question is how good they are, but they are certainly one of the top teams in Europe.

They’ve had some decent results but the record shows that at the World Cup they played two very good teams in Croatia and Belgium, and lost three times. (Including third place play-off which isn’t particularly important) 

Since that they’ve played in the Nations League and won a few games. I believe it is a good competition for division 2-4 teams, but lacks much meaning for the big sides in division 1 as there’s nothing at stake because they know they’ll qualify. That’s why we’ve seen such entertaining end to end games, as there’s no repercussions to doing badly in it if you know you’ll breeze qualifying. 

In this campaign they’ve beaten the Czechs who Northern Ireland easily disposed of in the last qualifying campaign and Montenegro who have won twice in their last 15 games or something - both wins came against Lithuania. 

Even if they played a well structured team like the North or Wales and won then I’d concede a bit of credit to them, but they’ve got a very soft group and will look great all the way through the qualifiers. 

That is until they play one of the big boys in the last sixteen or quarter finals and get turfed out again. 

Kane and Sterling are two high class players, the rest of the team is fairly average in comparison to other top European and South American sides. 
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Fancy answering my question though?

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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Crap senior Crap senior wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

This fella will be as good as Roy Keane

No chance. Keane was awesome. 


Rice is just as good and will only get better
just another reason to slate Keane and o Neill because they didn't cap rice. 


Keane and MON were muppets.    But Rice will be the England captain withing 2-3yrs and be playing for a top 4 club in Europe.

He could be made king of england tomorrow and it makes no difference. He will still never be in the same class as roy keane. NEVER 
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They’ve probably got, along with France, the best young players coming through in the world at the minute
They can only beat what’s put in front of them.

What South American teams would beat them? Brazil maybe. Argentina I don’t think so. 
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They’ve probably got, along with France, the best young players coming through in the world at the minute
They can only beat what’s put in front of them.

What South American teams would beat them? Brazil maybe. Argentina I don’t think so. 
They could beat every team in the world, win the Nations League, Euros and World Cup and you would have fellas saying they are lucky and that they would struggle against Mars.
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@Maccatacca

Kane and Sterling are two high class players, the rest of the team is fairly average in comparison to other top European and South American sides. 

Yeah sure we'll just ignore the likes of Alli, Rashford, Gomez, Alexander Arnold etc and then laud players on the continent with fancy surnames who play for clubs like Valencia, Betis, Sporting Lisbon, Lazio to fit your agenda. 

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Jesus Navas starting for Spain (at right back) and Ryan Babel starting for Holland are not average players at all though. They’re packed full of world class players those top sides and would all hammer England 4-0, apart from most recently when England went to Spain and won but that doesn’t count. 
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Beating the Czechs and Montenegro as comprehensively as they does bode well. They aren’t great teams but few will rack up five against them easily. They also have a serious fluency in their play, and seeing Rice, Sancho and Hudson Odoi would make most fans jealous.


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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Fancy answering my question though?

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No problem. 

We talk about young English talent coming through? 

The Dutch have without doubt the best youngsters coming through at the moment. EDIT: (Apart from France) And several of these lads are already mainstays in the team. 

Not sure if you watched Ajax tear Real Madrid apart, but that side was packed full of youthful Dutch players. 

People describe Declan Rice as a young midfielder /defender with the world at his feet, but he’s a million miles off the likes of De Ligt and Frenkie De Jong. 

Not to mention Donny Van de Beek and Patrick Kluivert who are both serious players in the making. 

The Dutch have turned a corner recently and are without doubt on the way back, they’d be my underdog selection for the Euros to be honest. They’ve no world class striker which England do, but England don’t have any world class midfielders or defenders.

They were fantastic in the second half against the Germans last night and very unlucky to lose that game. But I suppose they won’t be too worried as they’ve only got to finish ahead of the Nordies, Belarus and Estonia to qualify. 

I don’t believe the Nations League is a huge barometer of a teams qaulity but the Dutch managed to defeat both Germany and France in their division, equally as impressive as England’s results, if not more so. 



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I don’t believe there are many great international sides around at the minute.
France are certainly out on their own, but the rest all have their flaws. England are in the next group of teams behind France id say. 
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