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Typical he scores today . Just to add salt into the wounds before his announcement . A win against their London rivals , A first goal for him and a man of the match performance 
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Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

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Two of our household names did
 McClean and Duffy.

I dlubt there was ever such a spotlight on them so not sure what they would have said if asked about their commitment back then.



Declan switching would definitely be of the 'dramatic' variety. Not many players have ever walked out of one senior international team to join another. There may have been players who had fallen out of favour at senior level and who were no longer being selected for squads and who then switched allegiance, but to just walk out of a senior team where you are wanted and are being selected to join another must be almost unprecedented.

Chadli who used to play for Spurs, played for Morocco (through his parents) against N Iron in a friendly, Belgium came calling and 84 days later he played for Belgium.


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Gone 1/5 now with PP, significant move there
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He's not quick enough to play for a top 6 team as a defender so it's a strange decision from Southgate to say he sees him as a defender, especially as he's starting to establish himself as a very good holding midfielder.

Took his goal very well, and used the ball well throughout the game. It'll be a sickener to lose him when he makes the seemingly inevitable decision to defect.
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Paddy Power odds are not indicative on anything in this situation. 

Fairly sure this market falls under the term ‘novelty betting’. 


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Dedicated his goal to Michael Collins, Brian Boru and Michael Flatley.

Its in the bag.
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Dedicated his goal to Michael Collins, Brian Boru and Michael Flatley.

Its in the bag.


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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:



Two of our household names did
 McClean and Duffy.

I dlubt there was ever such a spotlight on them so not sure what they would have said if asked about their commitment back then.



Declan switching would definitely be of the 'dramatic' variety. Not many players have ever walked out of one senior international team to join another. There may have been players who had fallen out of favour at senior level and who were no longer being selected for squads and who then switched allegiance, but to just walk out of a senior team where you are wanted and are being selected to join another must be almost unprecedented.

Chadli who used to play for Spurs, played for Morocco (through his parents) against N Iron in a friendly, Belgium came calling and 84 days later he played for Belgium.


Yes, I read about that case before, but you could argue that a solitary friendly cap and then switching allegiance was just about understandable (the player could say he didn't like the set up or the manager etc and didn't feel comfortable). To be capped three times in succession over a period of months and just walk out to join another international side would clearly be unprecedented.
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

Dedicated his goal to Michael Collins, Brian Boru and Michael Flatley.

Its in the bag.
 
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Paddy Power odds are not indicative on anything in this situation. 

Fairly sure this market falls under the term ‘novelty betting’. 



I've been betting a long time and it's rear paddy gets it wrong with odds like that 


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Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:



Two of our household names did
 McClean and Duffy.

I dlubt there was ever such a spotlight on them so not sure what they would have said if asked about their commitment back then.



Declan switching would definitely be of the 'dramatic' variety. Not many players have ever walked out of one senior international team to join another. There may have been players who had fallen out of favour at senior level and who were no longer being selected for squads and who then switched allegiance, but to just walk out of a senior team where you are wanted and are being selected to join another must be almost unprecedented.

Chadli who used to play for Spurs, played for Morocco (through his parents) against N Iron in a friendly, Belgium came calling and 84 days later he played for Belgium.


Yes, I read about that case before, but you could argue that a solitary friendly cap and then switching allegiance was just about understandable (the player could say he didn't like the set up or the manager etc and didn't feel comfortable). To be capped three times in succession over a period of months and just walk out to join another international side would clearly be unprecedented.

Jermaine Jones played 3 friendlies for Germany before switching to the USA 
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Originally posted by Long Shot Long Shot wrote:

Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:



Two of our household names did
 McClean and Duffy.

I dlubt there was ever such a spotlight on them so not sure what they would have said if asked about their commitment back then.




Declan switching would definitely be of the 'dramatic' variety. Not many players have ever walked out of one senior international team to join another. There may have been players who had fallen out of favour at senior level and who were no longer being selected for squads and who then switched allegiance, but to just walk out of a senior team where you are wanted and are being selected to join another must be almost unprecedented.


Chadli who used to play for Spurs, played for Morocco (through his parents) against N Iron in a friendly, Belgium came calling and 84 days later he played for Belgium.



Yes, I read about that case before, but you could argue that a solitary friendly cap and then switching allegiance was just about understandable (the player could say he didn't like the set up or the manager etc and didn't feel comfortable). To be capped three times in succession over a period of months and just walk out to join another international side would clearly be unprecedented.

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Jermaine Jones played 3 friendlies for Germany before switching to the USA 


I’d say the Germans shat themselves over that
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Originally posted by howieb howieb wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Paddy Power odds are not indicative on anything in this situation. 

Fairly sure this market falls under the term ‘novelty betting’. 



I've been betting a long time and it's rear paddy gets it wrong with odds like that 

PP have nothing to lose with those odds, so why not?  More importantly as far as actual likelihoods are concerned would be "what are the odds that Rice will declare for Ireland?".

If PP are willing to shed out a lot of cash on that eventuality, I fear we are in trouble. 
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Originally posted by Luis Amor Rodriguez Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote:

Originally posted by howieb howieb wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Paddy Power odds are not indicative on anything in this situation. 

Fairly sure this market falls under the term ‘novelty betting’. 



I've been betting a long time and it's rear paddy gets it wrong with odds like that 

PP have nothing to lose with those odds, so why not?  More importantly as far as actual likelihoods are concerned would be "what are the odds that Rice will declare for Ireland?".

If PP are willing to shed out a lot of cash on that eventuality, I fear we are in trouble. 

These novelty markets are just for publicity - That's what stakes are extremely limited and why when there are a number of bets in a short space of time, the markets get pulled and then reinstated with drastically amended odds. 


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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by Luis Amor Rodriguez Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote:

Originally posted by howieb howieb wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Paddy Power odds are not indicative on anything in this situation. 

Fairly sure this market falls under the term ‘novelty betting’. 



I've been betting a long time and it's rear paddy gets it wrong with odds like that 

PP have nothing to lose with those odds, so why not?  More importantly as far as actual likelihoods are concerned would be "what are the odds that Rice will declare for Ireland?".

If PP are willing to shed out a lot of cash on that eventuality, I fear we are in trouble. 

These novelty markets are just for publicity - That's what stakes are extremely limited and why when there are a number of bets in a short space of time, the markets get pulled and then reinstated with drastically amended odds. 



No one has a clue what his decision is going to be until he releases a statement . I think everyone is presuming England because they have bigger name players and are more than likely going to be more successful than us in tournaments . Come on Declan surprise us all . 
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Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

He's not quick enough to play for a top 6 team as a defender so it's a strange decision from Southgate to say he sees him as a defender, especially as he's starting to establish himself as a very good holding midfielder.

Took his goal very well, and used the ball well throughout the game. It'll be a sickener to lose him when he makes the seemingly inevitable decision to defect.

Strange comment. 

John Terry wasn't the quickest either  who never needed to rely on pace and he was one of the best centre backs in the last 20 years in England. Steve Bruce to a lesser degree wasn't blessed with pace either. Their positional sense and physical strength would be far more a critical factor than how quick they are for that position imo. 
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