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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kevin100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jun 2021 at 11:52am
Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

there are players who raise their game for international football and mick McCarthy used to pick these players for Ireland despite their club form. Because we live in a world of lots of football on tv and stats people are preoccupied by lads club form etc but I think Kenny should go with players that do it for him and then up and perform for Ireland and in some ways ignore club form to an extent. Look at Mitrovic for Serbia and Fulham is a case in point.  Duffy did well last night despite being out of sorts at Celtic. Kenny could do worse than reward Ireland form rather than club form. 

I agree with that and Duffy has been good for ireland. However if oshea, Collins and Egan are playing well for their respective clubs do you still play Duffy ahead of them if he's not performing well for his club? 

Also - defensively we were setup very deep which suits Duffy and accommodates his type of play

If we play a higher defensive line Duffy struggles badly. (At club level this is clearly demonstrated) 
 

Look at Duffys mix up last night from an admittedly fizzy back pass from Cullen. He was good and I’m delighted for him and have actually been an advocate of having him in the squad when others have been saying leave him out. 

Egan O’Shea and hopefully Collins and Omobamidele can kick on and establish themselves further long term he’s not the solution but I would take him as a 4th or 5th choice experienced player in what will be a squad of a lot of young players and that will only get more pronounced in the next couple of years with the younger lads coming through/lack of players aged 23-28.


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whats left on his wycombe contract?
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Think Horgan would really benefit from moving to mainland Europe. Somewhere like Grasshopper in Switzerland. They took a punt on Connor Ronan
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

there are players who raise their game for international football and mick McCarthy used to pick these players for Ireland despite their club form. Because we live in a world of lots of football on tv and stats people are preoccupied by lads club form etc but I think Kenny should go with players that do it for him and then up and perform for Ireland and in some ways ignore club form to an extent. Look at Mitrovic for Serbia and Fulham is a case in point.  Duffy did well last night despite being out of sorts at Celtic. Kenny could do worse than reward Ireland form rather than club form. 

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The North squad is full of players who do well at international level and have had pretty poor club careers
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

there are players who raise their game for international football and mick McCarthy used to pick these players for Ireland despite their club form. Because we live in a world of lots of football on tv and stats people are preoccupied by lads club form etc but I think Kenny should go with players that do it for him and then up and perform for Ireland and in some ways ignore club form to an extent. Look at Mitrovic for Serbia and Fulham is a case in point.  Duffy did well last night despite being out of sorts at Celtic. Kenny could do worse than reward Ireland form rather than club form. 

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Was just going to make a similar point. 

Even with O'Neill gone, N.I. are still greater than the sum of their parts under Baraclough going by their performances. Despite the positive result against Hungary last night, I don't think Kenny has the pragmatism to make the most out of our limitations despite having a better squad of players than N.I. 

He's going to try and have us play out from the back and through Portugal which could result in a heavier loss than we wold have over previous Irish managers who would be more defensively minded. Hopefully I'm proven completely wrong and he sticks with the defensive 3 of Duffy-Egan & O'Shea in Faro.  

In regards to Horgan, everytime he touched the ball last last night he used it very well. I think most on here didn't think he was up to international level not long ago including myself but he has arguably been the best performer out of everyone under Kenny. Fair dues to him and he already looks to be a brilliant impact sub option off the bench. Clap



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Agreed Horgan has done well when he's come on, himself and Ogbene nearly won the game for us with their directness.
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Originally posted by DublinScouse1916 DublinScouse1916 wrote:

Think Horgan would really benefit from moving to mainland Europe. Somewhere like Grasshopper in Switzerland. They took a punt on Connor Ronan

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That’s a new one.
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Will a championship club take a chance on him or might go back to Scotland?
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by DublinScouse1916 DublinScouse1916 wrote:

Think Horgan would really benefit from moving to mainland Europe. Somewhere like Grasshopper in Switzerland. They took a punt on Connor Ronan

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That’s a new one.

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He may end up staying at Wycombe? Hopefully he could go somewhere else and get regular games next season.
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could see him at st mirren with Goodwin if McGrath moves on or even if he doesn’t.
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