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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

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Very strange situation with Horgan. As a sub player coming on for ireland he's done OK. Today as a case on point.

The bad news is, he simply.cant get into a wycombe team that has had a terrible season in the championship and relegated to league 1.

At his age he should be in his prime but If ireland ever get into the position of choosing players on form he simply wouldn't make it.

Silly some posts today and this may be a contender for the worst one!

They were expected to beat Rotherham for the lowest pts total ever and ended up taking it to the final day, if that aint overachieving I don't know what is!



Yes, there was a late resurgence by wycombe towards the end of the season, where horgan barely featured for the last 10 odd games.

So wycombe were better when Horgan wasn't in the team. 

So I'm not really sure why my post is considered silly? 
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Very strange situation with Horgan. As a sub player coming on for ireland he's done OK. Today as a case on point.

The bad news is, he simply.cant get into a wycombe team that has had a terrible season in the championship and relegated to league 1.

At his age he should be in his prime but If ireland ever get into the position of choosing players on form he simply wouldn't make it.

Silly some posts today and this may be a contender for the worst one!

They were expected to beat Rotherham for the lowest pts total ever and ended up taking it to the final day, if that aint overachieving I don't know what is!



Yes, there was a late resurgence by wycombe towards the end of the season, where horgan barely featured for the last 10 odd games.

So wycombe were better when Horgan wasn't in the team. 

So I'm not really sure why my post is considered silly? 

He played in 40 of their matches. 
 


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I think that he can be an effective sub for us no matter who we play. His crossing can be ok at times and he's willing to take someone on.

His effectiveness wears off after a while, which we saw in his last few appearances when he started, which is why he's best suited to a sub role.
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Originally posted by Didiseyebrows Didiseyebrows wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Very strange situation with Horgan. As a sub player coming on for ireland he's done OK. Today as a case on point.

The bad news is, he simply.cant get into a wycombe team that has had a terrible season in the championship and relegated to league 1.

At his age he should be in his prime but If ireland ever get into the position of choosing players on form he simply wouldn't make it.

Silly some posts today and this may be a contender for the worst one!

They were expected to beat Rotherham for the lowest pts total ever and ended up taking it to the final day, if that aint overachieving I don't know what is!



Yes, there was a late resurgence by wycombe towards the end of the season, where horgan barely featured for the last 10 odd games.

So wycombe were better when Horgan wasn't in the team. 

So I'm not really sure why my post is considered silly? 

He played in 40 of their matches. 
 



Intentionally misleading to throw 40 matches out there when you are probably fully aware he was a late sub in a lot of the games. 

As I said, he barely played in the last 10 games 
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I was moaning in the other thread when he was being brought on, but I have to hold my hands up and say he done well. Great cross for Kinghts goal and an excellent header for his own. Can't really ask more than that 
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Last season Daryl Horgan started 28 games for Wycombe and was an ever-present until the final 5 weeks of the season.

To put that into perspective, Callum O'Dowda has never started more than 20 games in an entire season in his career to date. Yet he has started way more games for us.

Last season, James McClean started a grand total of 17 games for Stoke, and we are still relying on him.

I'd love to know where all these players are who should be taking Horgan's place in the team/squad.
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Horgan has impacted games for us in fairness. Hes a decent player. Set up a goal yesterday and scored. 
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I'm not a massive fan of Horgan and as said he was dropped from a wycombe side for the last 5 weeks of the season but was ever present for them in the prior games.

I dont think he's championship standard primarily.due to him not being a consistent performer and struggles with fitness over 90 mins.

When he came on for ireland yesterday I thought it was a poor substitution.

However - he's been one of the better performers for ireland when he comes on and yesterday he was really good. He puts more quality on the ball than mcclean ever does.

That's the difficulty in choosing him, we have a player playing for a poor championship team (now league 1) and struggling to nail down his position of late.

On the other hand, every time he's come on for ireland he's been one of the only players making an impact with clever runs, good quality on the ball and now he's popping up with a deserved goal and assist.

He's a selection headache in that respect.
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Horgan has impacted games for us in fairness. Hes a decent player. Set up a goal yesterday and scored. 
The bit i liked yesterday was James took the throw in you expected him to lay it back to him but he turned the defender on the inside and put the cross in for the goal , outstanding Clap
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Has been brilliant for us every time I’ve seen him play under Kenny, would go as far as saying he’s been our best player since Kenny took over. 
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I like him as a super sub. Would still have Robinson, Connolly and Parrott ahead of him at least and probably mcclean too at this moment 
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His control across his chest was great to see last night, it's be a long time since I've seen a bit of skill like that from a player in green. Surely he can get regular football at a club at a decent level somewhere.
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Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Has been brilliant for us every time I’ve seen him play under Kenny, would go as far as saying he’s been our best player since Kenny took over. 
Really like how direct he has been, similar to Ogbene it creates a bit of a buzz as we don’t enter have players willing to take on and beat a man. He’s been more effective off the bench though than when he’s started games.
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Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

His control across his chest was great to see last night, it's be a long time since I've seen a bit of skill like that from a player in green. Surely he can get regular football at a club at a decent level somewhere.

Couldn't agree more, high level technical ability to chest that ball, have a look over his shoulder and knock the ball to idah for a chance.

For ireland he's done some really good stuff and I can't fault him. 

Makes me wonder why he isn't fancied for his club teams? There's always been question marks as a 90min player. He struggled to get into the wycombe team for the last few months.

Is it his attitude towards fitness? His focus for club games? 

There's a good bit of talent and skill there but the consistency at club level is a concern. 

Hate his club form but he's been good for ireland.... very frustrating as you want to choose the inform players.


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Bergkamp would have been proud of his control and cross last night. Like a lot of our players he's not doing great at club level, but he's done enough for  us to show that he's good enough for an impact sub role.
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there are players who raise their game for international football and mick McCarthy used to pick these players for Ireland despite their club form. Because we live in a world of lots of football on tv and stats people are preoccupied by lads club form etc but I think Kenny should go with players that do it for him and then up and perform for Ireland and in some ways ignore club form to an extent. Look at Mitrovic for Serbia and Fulham is a case in point.  Duffy did well last night despite being out of sorts at Celtic. Kenny could do worse than reward Ireland form rather than club form. 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

there are players who raise their game for international football and mick McCarthy used to pick these players for Ireland despite their club form. Because we live in a world of lots of football on tv and stats people are preoccupied by lads club form etc but I think Kenny should go with players that do it for him and then up and perform for Ireland and in some ways ignore club form to an extent. Look at Mitrovic for Serbia and Fulham is a case in point.  Duffy did well last night despite being out of sorts at Celtic. Kenny could do worse than reward Ireland form rather than club form. 

I agree with that and Duffy has been good for ireland. However if oshea, Collins and Egan are playing well for their respective clubs do you still play Duffy ahead of them if he's not performing well for his club? 

Also - defensively we were setup very deep which suits Duffy and accommodates his type of play

If we play a higher defensive line Duffy struggles badly. (At club level this is clearly demonstrated) 
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I think football teams are all about making them greater than the sum of their parts esp at average international teams.  There are many factors that go into why a players form at club level is good or bad.  As you say tactically it may not suit a player at club level in the system they are in but the system for
Their country could be perfect or vice versa. Doherty is the reverse of that for a long time.  Obviously huge talents need to be always picked for their team but when their are tight calls I would go with the lad who does it for Ireland time and time again.  Hourihane has been cat for Ireland for a while now, should he play, I would say not despite his goals for Swansea.  Horgan is a lad who has barely played recently but has been great for Ireland again.  That form for Ireland should be rewarded imo. 


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