Dan Crowley

aviva8 wrote: Just scored  nice finish

But does he love The EIRE?

Crowley's international career so far is as below -

Johansson's international career includes 3 countries, however u16s I understand can play for anyone... so my nephew who's 15 can play for Saudi Arabia despite having no connection whatsoever (I think this is right) 

So if you exclude u16s its 2 teams.

I imagine you are right that the FA won't have submitted a complaint.  Nonetheless, it seems very likely Crowley and Johansson are in precisely the same situation, unfortunately.

Eligibility, as construed at any one point in time, is an absolute concept and won't necessarily depend on a complaint. Now FIFA are "aware" of the issue (since the Lux complaint) don't expect them to register switching Irish descendants who didn't have a passport at the time of their first international match, unless and until the Johansson ruling is overturned.  

Crowley played underage for England (and so, presumably, did not have an Irish passport at that point i.e.: "acquire" Irish citizenship in FIFA talk) and then played for Ireland underage. Crowley also qualifies for Ireland through his grandparents - in his case from Cork and Waterford (of which there is no doubt).

Johansson the exact same.  Played for Lux underage without an Irish passport, then got the passport ('acquired" Irish citizenship in FIFA's current view).  And now has been told he could not switch.

Mick McCarthy was clear in saying that there were issues relating to Crowley's eligibility. This is after the Johansson situation arose and the Johansson application to FIFA was going through.

Therefore, it seems highly likely that Crowley and Johansson are in the exact same situation, sadly.

As Callum Robinson would have been in, had he applied for transfer after the Luxembourg complaint to FIFA. Which shows how ridiculous the FIFA decision is and why it really should be overturned; which I expect will ultimately happen if there are sufficient resources to fight it... big "if" from the FAI's perspective 

Also unfair to Johansson and his family that he has to fund any appeal - it's an issue relating to the rights and entitlements of Irish citizens by virtue of their status as citizen and Irish national - the FAI at the very least, and the Government ideally, should display a firm interest and financial support imo.

Why is that blatant?  

We don't know for definite what the position is, but - answering the questions I listed above - we can say with quite a lot of confidence that it is highly likely that Crowley and Johansson are in the same boat. 

First, you said it was "hard to know if Crowley is in the same boat [as Johansson] or not" - which is untrue.  It is fully possible to review the available information and conclude it's overwhelmingly likely both players are in the same situation.

Then, you said "we don't know if they're in the same boat" - a new position, which is in fact true; but obviously we can take an informed view on what the situation is very likely to be.

Do you not agree that they are in the same situation, from what we know?

Can you identify any substantive difference in their positions?

Why would you come out with such uninformed, unjustified views, only to follow them up by a swift, (albeit childishly denied) change-of-position?  

The former two questions are the issue.

The latter question isn't meant in a pejorative sense.  Rather it's just a waste of time for anyone who comes on to the forum with an interest in trying to find information on Irish players, and then seeing the likes of you just "disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing", without any rational basis.  Then, when called out on it, you immediately change your position, pretend it was the same all along, and follow up with a [laughing emoji], like an 11 year-old girl who just got her first mobile phone from Santa last week. 

In any event, back on topic, for those who have an interest in Crowley and Johansson's eligibility (and not O'Shea's on-going struggles with basic linguistic expression), the available evidence demonstrates it is overwhelmingly likely that both players are in precisely the same situation, unfortunately.