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Originally posted by giveittochristie giveittochristie wrote:

Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

We are so weak in the wide positions. Johnny Hayes is anothe option on the left. He has been very unlucky not to get more caps, especially when you consider O'Dowda has 22
Everything points towards moving towards a 352. Almost all of our defensive players play it at club level, and it would fix most of our main issues:

We have good full backs but poor wingers
We have no creativity in midfield but plenty of legs
We have goal-shy strikers playing up front on their own.

You could play something like the following, which would be pretty balanced all over the pitch:
Randolph
Coleman Egan Clark
Doherty                         Stevens
McCarthy Molumby Hendrick
Long Connolly


Players like O'Shea, Williams could play in the wide CB positions also. I have Hendrick in midfield for his energy, but you could play Byrne there, at least against weaker teams. I left Long in up front as for all his faults, im still not sure any of the alternatives are better, at least for now.

Also this team wouldnt include Duffy and McClean - two great players for us under the last two managers but they really don't fit a possession style - especially Duffy, who is holding us back a lot at the moment. He plays around 5-10 yards behind the rest of the defence, and most teams let him have the ball as they know his distribution isnt good enough.



Disclaimer: We won't do any of the above  - Kenny loves his wingers.

All good points and then you go and ruin it by putting Hendrick and energy in same sentence
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote shakeyshamrock Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Nov 2020 at 5:54pm
This is what I was saying back in March 2017.. 

Originally posted by shakeyshamrock shakeyshamrock wrote:


said it before, but I think a 3-5-2/5-3-2 is the answer with the players we have - we can set that up as a defensive one or a more attacking one.. either way it protects us in midfield and still gives us 2 up front. 

defensive:

GK
O'Shea Duffy Clark
Coleman Ward
McCarthy Whelan
Hendrick
Walters Murphy

(very) attacking:

GK
Coleman Clark Ward
McGeady McClean
McCarthy Arter
Hoolohan
Long Murphy

I'm all for a consistent system across all age groups, and a long-term plan. It's just a pity that Ruud Dokter and the rest went for a 4-3-3 when they were choosing what we would play. For years we've had good centre backs, good full backs, runners/dogs in midfield, and strikers who don't play well up front on their own.. 3-5-2 takes advantage of the strengths that we consistently seem to have (centre-backs, full-backs, midfield runners) and mitigates against the weaknesses by getting us an extra body a bit further up the pitch. 

It also helps you to get more of your best players on the pitch - both Coleman and Doherty can start in this system, and it suits more of your regularly playing players - all 3 of Egan, Doherty and Stevens have played their best football at club level in this system. Put as many of your best players as you can in their best positions. And get as many of your best players on the pitch as you can. If you do that, it stands to reason that you'll win more games than if you don't. 

3-5-2 also makes up for the lack of pace we normally have in defence. I feel like it's the best cultural fit for us with the kinds of players we normally produce - shame it's not what they chose back then to implement across all age groups - nothing to say you can't play nice football with 3 at the back.... 

Also, just looking at those teams there, it shows that where we've really lost players over the past 3 years has been up front - only Long and Hendrick are still playing for us out of any of the front players, and only Hendrick is making squads... we're in bad need of one or two of those young lads who play up front to come good.. unless they do it won't matter what system we play! 




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Just looking at the Coventry team tonight. Both Jordan Shipley and Callum O Hare can play for us can’t they? 23 and 22 years old respectively and both playing a lot in the championship surely more worthy ahead of Curtis, Harness and others?
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Originally posted by Donegalman Donegalman wrote:

Just looking at the Coventry team tonight. Both Jordan Shipley and Callum O Hare can play for us can’t they? 23 and 22 years old respectively and both playing a lot in the championship surely more worthy ahead of Curtis, Harness and others?
What has Shipley been like? He’s played for our 21s 
O Hare would have to get his papers sorted if he declares 
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