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    Posted: 19 Nov 2020 at 8:13pm
Kenny has called up a total of 42 players for his squads so far.

Goalkeepers
1. Darren Randolph
2. Kieran O'Hara
3. Caoimhin Kelleher
4. Mark Travers

Right Back
1. Seamus Coleman
2. Matt Doherty
3. Cyrus Christie

Left Back
1. Enda Stevens
2. Ryan Manning
3. Derrick Williams

Centre Back
1. John Egan
2. Shane Duffy
3. Kevin Long
4. Dara O'Shea
5. Ciaran Clark
6. Darragh Lenihan

Right Midfield
1. Callum O'Dowda
2. Daryl Horgan
3. Marcus Harness

Left Midfield
1. James McClean
2. Robbie Brady
3. Ronan Curtis

Centre Midfield
1. Jeff Hendrick
2. Conor Hourihane
3. James McCarthy
4. Jayson Molumby
5. Harry Arter
6. Josh Cullen
7. Jack Taylor
8. Aaron McEneff

Attacking Midfield
1. Alan Browne
2. Jason Knight
3. Jack Byrne

Striker
1. Aaron Connolly
2. Callum Robinson
3. Adam Idah
4. Shane Long
5. James Collins
6. Sean Maguire
7. Troy Parrott
8. Graham Burke
9. David McGoldrick (Retired)


Who else is even a realistic option ?
The likes of Dunne, Cunningham, Smallbone, Ronan, Sadlier, Hogan, Obafemi is all I can think of.
Though I don't think any of them would be in our strongest 23 if everyone was available.




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We are so weak in the wide positions. Johnny Hayes is anothe option on the left. He has been very unlucky not to get more caps, especially when you consider O'Dowda has 22
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Micheal Duffy was called up but his papers didn't go through, apparently.

Although Jack Taylor and Aaron McEneff were called up I can't see them being called up again, maybe Taylor at a later stage.
     
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gk:
ohara
westwood
rogers
bonham
mcdermott

defense:
pearce
dunne
keogh
hoban
rafferty
cunningham
collins
gannon
clarke

Midfield:
williams
rea
mcgeady
duffy
shields
ronan
smallbone
doyle hayes
crowley
judge
okane
hayes
connell
carey
sadlier
ogbene
shodipo
kelly

striker:
obafemi
obrien
hogan
sheridan

not a terrible list considering youre looking at a 3rd or 4th string squad


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Alan judge the forgotten man , how’s he doing currently ?

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Originally posted by Rodneytrotter Rodneytrotter wrote:

Alan judge the forgotten man , how’s he doing currently ?


Forgot he existed.  Haven't a scoobie.

What about Conor Sammon?
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Rodneytrotter Rodneytrotter wrote:

Alan judge the forgotten man , how’s he doing currently ?


Forgot he existed.  Haven't a scoobie.

What about Conor Sammon?

Conor has become quite the celebrity of late 
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Originally posted by Rodneytrotter Rodneytrotter wrote:

Alan judge the forgotten man , how’s he doing currently ?

What did Mick say about him after he was injured in the Denmark game? Something like: Judgey, if he has any luck it is hard luck. 
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Originally posted by Rodneytrotter Rodneytrotter wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by Rodneytrotter Rodneytrotter wrote:

Alan judge the forgotten man , how’s he doing currently ?


Forgot he existed.  Haven't a scoobie.

What about Conor Sammon?

Conor has become quite the celebrity of late 


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 He won player of the tournament in the 2020 Sticky Toffee Pudding Cup. He Scored all 4 goals in the final, which was 4-0 victory over Waterford F.C.

Anyway off to bed I’ve to be up at ten o clock , just in time to relax for the rest of the day doing nothing 
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Originally posted by Rodneytrotter Rodneytrotter wrote:

 He won player of the tournament in the 2020 Sticky Toffee Pudding Cup. He Scored all 4 goals in the final, which was 4-0 victory over Waterford F.C.

Anyway off to bed I’ve to be up at ten o clock , just in time to relax for the rest of the day doing nothing 


Away you go Arnie.  My consortium will take those chains off you tomorrow if you call over to Nelson MAndela House around lunchtime.  Give my regards to young Gary and Steven.
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glad you reached a decision , i was getting sick of that tea .
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glad you reached a decision , i was getting sick of that tea .


Were you not on the mineral water Arnie?
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Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

We are so weak in the wide positions. Johnny Hayes is anothe option on the left. He has been very unlucky not to get more caps, especially when you consider O'Dowda has 22
Everything points towards moving towards a 352. Almost all of our defensive players play it at club level, and it would fix most of our main issues:

We have good full backs but poor wingers
We have no creativity in midfield but plenty of legs
We have goal-shy strikers playing up front on their own.

You could play something like the following, which would be pretty balanced all over the pitch:
Randolph
Coleman Egan Clark
Doherty                         Stevens
McCarthy Molumby Hendrick
Long Connolly


Players like O'Shea, Williams could play in the wide CB positions also. I have Hendrick in midfield for his energy, but you could play Byrne there, at least against weaker teams. I left Long in up front as for all his faults, im still not sure any of the alternatives are better, at least for now.

Also this team wouldnt include Duffy and McClean - two great players for us under the last two managers but they really don't fit a possession style - especially Duffy, who is holding us back a lot at the moment. He plays around 5-10 yards behind the rest of the defence, and most teams let him have the ball as they know his distribution isnt good enough.

Disclaimer: We won't do any of the above  - Kenny loves his wingers.
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Originally posted by giveittochristie giveittochristie wrote:

Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

We are so weak in the wide positions. Johnny Hayes is anothe option on the left. He has been very unlucky not to get more caps, especially when you consider O'Dowda has 22
Everything points towards moving towards a 352. Almost all of our defensive players play it at club level, and it would fix most of our main issues:

We have good full backs but poor wingers
We have no creativity in midfield but plenty of legs
We have goal-shy strikers playing up front on their own.

You could play something like the following, which would be pretty balanced all over the pitch:
Randolph
Coleman Egan Clark
Doherty                         Stevens
McCarthy Molumby Hendrick
Long Connolly


Players like O'Shea, Williams could play in the wide CB positions also. I have Hendrick in midfield for his energy, but you could play Byrne there, at least against weaker teams. I left Long in up front as for all his faults, im still not sure any of the alternatives are better, at least for now.

Also this team wouldnt include Duffy and McClean - two great players for us under the last two managers but they really don't fit a possession style - especially Duffy, who is holding us back a lot at the moment. He plays around 5-10 yards behind the rest of the defence, and most teams let him have the ball as they know his distribution isnt good enough.

Disclaimer: We won't do any of the above  - Kenny loves his wingers.

I like that system and think it would suit us best. Seems pretty clear that 4-3-3 doesn't (at least so far)

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so, while I don’t think we’ll see a switch to 3-5-2, I do think that Kenny will start to flex the 4-3-3 system more. In the past he has declared admiration for the way that Italian teams play a lop-sided back 4, where only one full back pushed up (way up) to support attacks and the other tucks in to provide cover. Coleman played the tucked in role with Ancelloti’s Everton last season.

I think he has been nibbling around that approach with Ireland. He’s already discussed using Doherty in midfield, and v Bulgaria he had pushed O’Shea way up on the right.

With our full complement of players, that approach would have us defending like this (example line up)

              Randolph
Coleman Duffy Egan Stevens
     Doherty McCarthy Brady
      Horgan Idah Connolly

And attacking like this (with Stevens pushed way up and Doherty wide on the right supporting Horgan) and more bodies in the box.

                   Randolph
         Coleman Duffy Egan
Doherty McCarthy Brady Stevens
           Horgan Idah Connolly

Coleman excels at that sweeping up role when we commit a lot of players forward (think corners and free kicks) and he would give us the pace at the back that we don’t have when we are overcommitted in attack
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Idah is nowhere near the level required.

It'll be interesting to see how Parrot plays for Millwall between now and March.

     
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