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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

You realise that there is a lag between cases to hospitalisations to deaths. As has been mentioned here already, were not even two weeks into the vacinne programme. Those who died this week likely contracted the virus before the first vaccine was administered here. 

The vaccine has been around for several weeks. 56 of today's deaths recorded, occurred in 2021.

It is almost certain that the people who died in today's numbers contracted the virus before the first person here got the vaccine.. that is before one also adds in that the vaccine has been given to a limited number of people such as health care workers and older people in hospital etc..  

Unfortunately there will be more deaths as the vaccine can only prevent death in those it is given to for the moment until the virus runs out of hosts.   


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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Planners has some seriously high standards for vaccines. LOL

Move the cranks aside and put Planners in charge!! 

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Got my first dose of the vaccine yesterday, have to wait 3 weeks now til I get the 2nd dose. Its the only way out of this nightmare..... 
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Originally posted by greenlad greenlad wrote:

Got my first dose of the vaccine yesterday, have to wait 3 weeks now til I get the 2nd dose. Its the only way out of this nightmare..... 

Yep agreed. 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

You realise that there is a lag between cases to hospitalisations to deaths. As has been mentioned here already, were not even two weeks into the vacinne programme. Those who died this week likely contracted the virus before the first vaccine was administered here. 

The vaccine has been around for several weeks. 56 of today's deaths recorded, occurred in 2021.

It is almost certain that the people who died in today's numbers contracted the virus before the first person here got the vaccine.. that is before one also adds in that the vaccine has been given to a limited number of people such as health care workers and older people in hospital etc..  

Unfortunately there will be more deaths as the vaccine can only prevent death in those it is given to for the moment until the virus runs out of hosts.   


I wouldn’t bother Baldrick. Just go back and read his posts from when this all started if you are bored and want to scratch your head in bemusement. If that doesn’t convince you that you’re wasting your time you can hit up the US Politics thread afterwards. Should that also fail, I suggest standing in front of a mirror and looking very hard at yourself.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

the people who are getting sick are people who haven’t had the vaccine Ffs.  How can you blame the vaccine.  

How many people have had the 2nd dose in Ireland.  Very few.  Once you reach a certain amount it will start to dip massively along with coming out of winter. 


When numbers went up people said it was proof masks don't work. People believe what they want to. 
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Planners has some seriously high standards for vaccines. LOL

Move the cranks aside and put Planners in charge!! 

This Planning fellow was calling it a bug for a very long time and utterly dismissive of lockdowns. He now, I kid you not, claims that we should have been behaving like New Zealand. The government wasn't doing enough apparently either.  

You sir, are a simpleton. 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

I think when the over 70s get done then we'll go out of restrictions. 

I doubt it.  They may lessen slightly that's about it. 
At the point when all vulnerable groups and HCW have been vaccinated id imagine that the financial implications of continued restrictions will come to prominence. By then NPHET will more or less have their job done and vaccination roll out will be priority. Eventually there'll come a time when covid will be another illnesses that cause death like cancer, heart disease, stroke and flu. Then we will be living with covid.

Not that easy. Cases will need to be very low before we open up or we’ll end up with a major spread. Also 17% of those in critical care in Israel received 1st dose of the vaccine and were waiting for their 2nd. It’s important not to open too quickly imo now that there’s an end in sight. Cases just too high.

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 https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/13/covid-vaccine-johnson-johnson-one-shot-safe-generates-immune-response.html

Great news. We will most likely come in well ahead of Donnelly projection of 2.2 vaccinations by end of June with this news
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Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

 https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/13/covid-vaccine-johnson-johnson-one-shot-safe-generates-immune-response.html

Great news. We will most likely come in well ahead of Donnelly projection of 2.2 vaccinations by end of June with this news
Lisbon in September looks a lot more promising if this and Oxford come on to the market in the next few weeks.
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

I see and hear there are still some of those smaller gyms that focus on personal training still open. What's the loophole there does anyone know?


Yeah heard a few loopholes about that one....but the main one being used is that the people getting the training (and I’ve heard of groups of over 10) are just saying that they are elite sportsmen/women but using boxing,judo and MMA as there sports..and are just training as normal and they aren’t even sportspeople,it’s just something to say to the Garda if they knock on the door.i also heard of a gym that has moved most of its equipment upstairs to their office areas and are open for a select few there.


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Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

I think when the over 70s get done then we'll go out of restrictions. 

I doubt it.  They may lessen slightly that's about it. 
At the point when all vulnerable groups and HCW have been vaccinated id imagine that the financial implications of continued restrictions will come to prominence. By then NPHET will more or less have their job done and vaccination roll out will be priority. Eventually there'll come a time when covid will be another illnesses that cause death like cancer, heart disease, stroke and flu. Then we will be living with covid.

Not that easy. Cases will need to be very low before we open up or we’ll end up with a major spread. Also 17% of those in critical care in Israel received 1st dose of the vaccine and were waiting for their 2nd. It’s important not to open too quickly imo now that there’s an end in sight. Cases just too high.


Interesting stat there
Pipkin regarding the first dose.  Backs up the importance of sticking with the science and not taking risks as was recommended by a poster here a week or so ago.  We must give the 2nd dose for Pfizer after 21 days and be led by the science. 
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Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

 https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/13/covid-vaccine-johnson-johnson-one-shot-safe-generates-immune-response.html

Great news. We will most likely come in well ahead of Donnelly projection of 2.2 vaccinations by end of June with this news

Promising but I would wait until the stage 3 results before we get too excited by this one. 
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Steady progress in the north. 110k vaccinated. 20k with second dose. Steady progress.with limited vaccine supply




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Just watching an interview now on the telly in the canteen. Hospitals and their ICUs are still admitting people who contracted the virus in Weeks 3 & 4 of December.
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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

You realise that there is a lag between cases to hospitalisations to deaths. As has been mentioned here already, were not even two weeks into the vacinne programme. Those who died this week likely contracted the virus before the first vaccine was administered here. 

The vaccine has been around for several weeks. 56 of today's deaths recorded, occurred in 2021.

Vaccines need to actually be inside people to stop them dying. 
 
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