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sid waddell
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Public buy in is obviously very important
That's why the Late Late Show is very important because it's the national television programme, the definition of middle Ireland I don't know what stuff the young people watch or listen to these days but maybe the message could be got out to them a bit better Sign Conor McGregor and Tommy Tiernan up for a series of witty ads in which Tiernan makes veiled references to McGregor's rape allegations but in which the overall message is one of complying with the regulations Or something like the old Aussie ad campaign against drink driving - "Drink, drive, bloody idiot" "The lads couldn't resist drinking cans, now they have to bury their Grans" |
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They were discussing the measures and the inconsistencies and how that was leading to fatigue and lack of buy as you can buy vodka but you can’t buy a child’s coat and that these inconsistent rules lead to people playing their part and coming up with their own rules some which they obey and some they don’t. I think it’s perfectly fine for this morning to discuss that. If it’s siloed off on to newsnight only a select amount of people see and hear it. Part of gay Byrnes brilliance was how his radio show and the late late mixed the light and the shade and as a result reached more people. The segregation of topics and shows has actually been a backward step imo and leads to less solidarity.
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Baldrick
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the CMO was on Dermot and Dave last week also. Doubt it’s the 15 to 24. Probably more like the 24 to 34.
I doubt Tommy Tiernan speaks to the 15 to 24 cohort. It’s defiantly not through MSM Stations anyway.
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sid waddell
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Maybe they could tailor the message Sign up some Instagram influencer who licks toilet seats or something Obviously she'd have to say why it's a bad idea to lick toilet seats at the current time |
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Baldrick
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Massive whiff of you dismissing the 15 to 24 cohort there Sid. You give out about dictators and rightly so but your tone suggests someone who looks down on a lot of people with little forgives for human foibles
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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I disagree. Not only does discussing serious matters on a lighthearted television shows demean their seriousness, but ony the soundbites filter down. Tabloid slants on serious things are very dangerous. I never really listened to or watched Gay Byrne that much as I took a dislike to his patronising manner at a young age, but Ireland seems to love these mixed shows where you talk about the war in Syria, Puck Fair and an interview with Stephen Kenny, all done by the same host. It seems to undermine each issue in turn in the process.
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Baldrick
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we will agree to disagree as late night politics shows are only watched by a tiny cohort of political nerds. The news and these mixed shows reach a far greater audience.
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sid waddell
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You're dismissing me and I don't like your tone I feel victimised by that Thankfully I have a lifestyle influencer on Instagram I follow who I know will have some excellent paid advice, product placement and vacuous memes to make me feel better about myself |
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sid waddell
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I want a return to shows like this It shows that major issues can be tackled in children's television slots by challenging major celebrities Hard hitting current affairs analysis from CBBC |
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It isn't a 'mixed show'! It's light-hearted television for the depressed, long-term unemployed and the menopausal. This mixture of entertainment and proper discussion is why we have Trump, Johnson and other nonsense.
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Baldrick
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I disagree as you say Ireland loves these types of shows and doesn’t have a trump or hasn’t had one.
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Okay well that is the case in the UK, I was lead to believe we followed the same approach. "So if a person with Covid-19 dies from a heart attack or a stroke, their death will be recorded and added to the figures. The ad is correct in this regard." I see the reason for this is because they believe covid may have contributed to this, which could be the case of course but not always. I see there is some truth in that the numbers may be slightly inflated but not with the extreme hit by a bus example I believed to be true. Good to know sid, thanks for sharing the article. |
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Does it? I don't remember such a show in Ireland. There was that thing with the weatherman? Did that do politics and current affairs in a flippant manner? My reference was to radio shows, especially current affairs ones, that also dabbled in sport, the arts and assorted unnecessary nonsense. There's an argument that every single Taoisigh has been populist since the foundation of the state too. Our media at home has been very poor overall, when you look at the speed in uncovering the child abuse scandals, Tuam babies, industrial schools etc. I don't think we have a strong history in that regard. Unlike over here, however, we do at least still have a reliable newspaper of record. You also missed the word 'yet' in your post! Separate arguments, anyway, but the lack of political awareness and the dumbing down of debates are certainly connected.
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well the late late show was a classic case of a show that moved from light to heavy topics. Our media is full of shows that do that.
Blaming mixed shows for the rise or populist leaders is a stretched. If anything media has become More fragmented in the last 20 years and those huge societal shows that grab the nation don’t exist anymore and we are the poorer for it. The answer is not a greater degree of fragmentation and only have political issues discussed on political shows.
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I didn't blame mixed-shows at all. I'm not sure there are mixed-shows over here at all!
The use of light entertainment shows to push a political agenda is part of the reason that the debate has 'dumbed down'. I would say that is stating the obvious.
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There is that **** on Channel 5, now that I think about.
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I thought it was a reasonable and responsible piece on this morning discussing some of the measures and the practical impact on people and how some of the absurd aspects may lead into lack of buy in from the public. It wasn’t calling for people to disobey them and wasn’t sAyong Measures were not needed. I think challenging and questioning some of the measures is reasonable and responsible and nothing wrong with it on a mid morning lifestyle type show. These types of shows have existed since I was a kid and before pebble mill on the bbc and in fact they have become more entertainment over the years and lost the day to day real life stuff over the years.
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