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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Bolsanaro on 6th May "We're past our peak, we're on a decline" at 5000 cases per day.

20th May - 23,000 new cases, a worldwide record for the most in 1 day - And only tested 700,000 out of 209 million people so likely to be more.

They are so f**ked it's sad.

He's a disgrace, completely f**ked it up 

Had meant to be be going to Brazil in Sep, likely be a good while before that's feasible now with him in charge 

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Peter Pandemic (Matt Hancock is now known as thanks to Charlie Brooker) hasn't got a clue what he's waffling on about. It's absolutely insane how he's still allowed to speak.

He's claiming 17% of Londoners have COVID19 antibodies and they're considering rolling out certificates to say they have, and when asked about what if antibodies aren't permanent and if a new strain breaks out which renders the certificate obsolete, he just shrugs his shoulders LOL
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Fair play to Keir Starmer putting pressure on Bozo Johnson to sort the overseas care workers surcharge. 

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The world is definitely going mad. On my home tonight I saw a builder standing close to naked outside a chip shop looking for a large cod, followed by a fella walking down the road with a massive speaker on his back, definitely not portable, listening to Latin jazz. I don't know how he was powering it.
I come home and find that Robbie Savage has replaced Robbie Peston and Mick Hucknall ks trying to make himself relevant by ranking the world's cultures. All these, with the pandemic itself, have to be some sort of harbingers for the apocalypse? 

Anyway, I listened to an episode of The Stand from a week or more back earlier, it was about Sweden's handling of the crisis. Their man Tegnell is either a genius or a lunatic. I have a tendency to trust the Nordic nations on these things, but it is certainly worth following there.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

The world is definitely going mad. On my home tonight I saw a builder standing close to naked outside a chip shop looking for a large cod, followed by a fella walking down the road with a massive speaker on his back, definitely not portable, listening to Latin jazz. I don't know how he was powering it.
I come home and find that Robbie Savage has replaced Robbie Peston and Mick Hucknall ks trying to make himself relevant by ranking the world's cultures. All these, with the pandemic itself, have to be some sort of harbingers for the apocalypse? 

Anyway, I listened to an episode of The Stand from a week or more back earlier, it was about Sweden's handling of the crisis. Their man Tegnell is either a genius or a lunatic. I have a tendency to trust the Nordic nations on these things, but it is certainly worth following there.

I wonder did he find it
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The way things are going the UK are going to have more deaths from the virus than they had in the second world war



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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

The world is definitely going mad. On my home tonight I saw a builder standing close to naked outside a chip shop looking for a large cod, followed by a fella walking down the road with a massive speaker on his back, definitely not portable, listening to Latin jazz. I don't know how he was powering it.

The hot weather's brought all the loony's back out alright.
I've pretty much spent the last 2 afternoons just minding my own business in a park and I felt in just vest and shorts and I felt overdressed compared to some people LOL And I even watched a 11 a side football game!
I'd of joined in if I could play... Getting punched in the face and basketball are my sports LOL

Judging by the photos across the country, the police have pretty much given up despite the threats on harsher fines. 

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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

The world is definitely going mad. On my home tonight I saw a builder standing close to naked outside a chip shop looking for a large cod
He wouldn't have found Boris Johnson in a chipper.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

The world is definitely going mad. On my home tonight I saw a builder standing close to naked outside a chip shop looking for a large cod, followed by a fella walking down the road with a massive speaker on his back, definitely not portable, listening to Latin jazz. I don't know how he was powering it.
I come home and find that Robbie Savage has replaced Robbie Peston and Mick Hucknall ks trying to make himself relevant by ranking the world's cultures. All these, with the pandemic itself, have to be some sort of harbingers for the apocalypse? 

Anyway, I listened to an episode of The Stand from a week or more back earlier, it was about Sweden's handling of the crisis. Their man Tegnell is either a genius or a lunatic. I have a tendency to trust the Nordic nations on these things, but it is certainly worth following there.

I wonder did he find it
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Anyway, I listened to an episode of The Stand from a week or more back earlier, it was about Sweden's handling of the crisis. Their man Tegnell is either a genius or a lunatic. I have a tendency to trust the Nordic nations on these things, but it is certainly worth following there.
The Swedes have lost their marbles big time.

Official figures there say just 7% of Stockholm's population have developed antibodies. That's in Stockholm, which is the epicentre of their outbreak. Compare that to Spain where the Spaniards found 11% of Madrid's population had developed antibodies.

I've been saying for yonks that this natural herd immunity drive is a crock and the figures completely bear that out. The Swedes have just thrown thousands of people under the bus for no gain whatsoever.

Their strategy should be called out for what it is - a total failure.


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17% of Londoners have it. And that's with a lockdown.
7% of 970,000 is alot better than 17% of 8.9 million.

A bigger sample size is always going to give a larger % but the math suggests herd immunity was the correct approach, they did gain something from this, they've kept their economy going unlike every other country in the world.




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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

The world is definitely going mad. On my home tonight I saw a builder standing close to naked outside a chip shop looking for a large cod
He wouldn't have found Boris Johnson in a chipper.
As much chance there as anywhere else. LOL 

The deflection today in the gutter press was exceptional, even by their own low standards. Instead of any mention of the Arcuri, ahem, affair, we were treated to headlines that Steve Coogan's production company had the temerity to take advantage of the government's furlough scheme. Obviously this earth shattering news, that has presumably been known for weeks and is hardly news, needed to be told today!
How dare a horrible lefty luvvie use a government's scheme for exactly the reason it was set-up!
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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Anyway, I listened to an episode of The Stand from a week or more back earlier, it was about Sweden's handling of the crisis. Their man Tegnell is either a genius or a lunatic. I have a tendency to trust the Nordic nations on these things, but it is certainly worth following there.
The Swedes have lost their marbles big time.

Official figures there say just 7% of Stockholm's population have developed antibodies. That's in Stockholm, which is the epicentre of their outbreak. Compare that to Spain where the Spaniards found 11% of Madrid's population had developed antibodies.

I've been saying for yonks that this natural herd immunity drive is a crock and the figures completely bear that out. The Swedes have just thrown thousands of people under the bus for no gain whatsoever.

Their strategy should be called out for what it is - a total failure.

What were the deaths as a percentage of the population in Stockholm and Madrid.

Those figures on their own mean sweet f**k allLOL

And as Coyne has said; the non Covid impact will be much lesser. 

You can say for yonks and forever more but you’ll still be wrong
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Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Anyway, I listened to an episode of The Stand from a week or more back earlier, it was about Sweden's handling of the crisis. Their man Tegnell is either a genius or a lunatic. I have a tendency to trust the Nordic nations on these things, but it is certainly worth following there.
The Swedes have lost their marbles big time.

Official figures there say just 7% of Stockholm's population have developed antibodies. That's in Stockholm, which is the epicentre of their outbreak. Compare that to Spain where the Spaniards found 11% of Madrid's population had developed antibodies.

I've been saying for yonks that this natural herd immunity drive is a crock and the figures completely bear that out. The Swedes have just thrown thousands of people under the bus for no gain whatsoever.

Their strategy should be called out for what it is - a total failure.

What were the deaths as a percentage of the population in Stockholm and Madrid.

Those figures on their own mean sweet f**k allLOL

And as Coyne has said; the non Covid impact will be much lesser. 

You can say for yonks and forever more but you’ll still be wrong

I don't think you get it. Sweden went for herd immunity. They wanted a large percentage of their population to get the virus so that they would "get through this" quicker. But only a tiny percentage of the population has got the virus. If it's 7% in Stockholm, the national precentage is likely down around 2-3%.

But yet through that policy, they've ended up with a death rate of 384 per million - compared to Denmark's 97 per million, Finland's 55 and Norway's 43. 

So they've merely skyrocketed their death rate when they didn't have to, and they've made basically no progress towards the crock o' gold at the end of the rainbow which is herd immunity.

A double failure.
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You can scream failure til the fat lady sings but Sweden aren't facing a recession worse than WWI and WW2 combined, and I'd imagine general quality of life is alot better there too!

Jag ska tuttar runka will be the first words I'll be saying if I ever stepped foot in Sweden.
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

You can scream failure til the fat lady sings but Sweden aren't facing a recession worse than WWI and WW2 combined, and I'd imagine general quality of life is alot better there too!

Jag ska tuttar runka will be the first words I'll be saying if I ever stepped foot in Sweden.
Sweden is facing a massive recession the same as every other country is.
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The virus is going to push Argentina over the edge and they're going to have to default on their debts. The place will be chaotic.
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The Argies have escaped it!
They hard locked down over a month ago before it even hit and any of their cases they do find are all in Buenos Aires so it's all contained.

Their Latin American friends however, are in deep trouble. Like, worse than Western Europe trouble.


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