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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

As usual when it comes to Hourihane (and Hendrick) when you challenge anyone as to what they bring to the team, the response is something vague about experience and playing in the premier League. 

I too am not concerned by his injury, but I'm more than willing to have my mind changed.

What will we be potentially missing with him not in Belgrade?


He was pivotal to Villa staying in the PL, which is a weird thing to skirt over given the context.
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Spot on.  

But for Hourihane's interventions at the end of the season, Villa were dead set on relegation.  He was a big part of them staying up. 

He's a serious loss to our team in Belgrade, with his dead ball ability and experience; not to mention the absence of many quality or even form players to replace him.

Hope it's just a knock and he's back in time for Belgrade. 


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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

As usual when it comes to Hourihane (and Hendrick) when you challenge anyone as to what they bring to the team, the response is something vague about experience and playing in the premier League. 

I too am not concerned by his injury, but I'm more than willing to have my mind changed.

What will we be potentially missing with him not in Belgrade?


He was pivotal to Villa staying in the PL, which is a weird thing to skirt over given the context.

Well he was and he wasn't. He made crucial set piece contributions but that was offset by his lack of contribution in general play which will have contributed to them being so far down the table. Ultimately they dropped him and have been far better off this season without him.
 


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What has villa got to do with anything? I'm only concerned with how he plays for Ireland, and I suggest some of you guys go back and watch his performances over the last year or so. 
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Yes, I'm more concerned about the Lenihan call up than the Hourihane thing. Hope Clark is OK, he won't have called Lenihan up for no reason. Hourihane has had enough chances with Ireland and has done nothing bar one free kick. He's no loss.

Clark playing tonight so Long Duffy or O’Shea? Hopefully not O’Shea for his sake in particular playing regularly and playing well.
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Spot on.  

But for Hourihane's interventions at the end of the season, Villa were dead set on relegation.  He was a big part of them staying up. 

He's a serious loss to our team in Belgrade, with his dead ball ability and experience; not to mention the absence of many quality or even form players to replace him.

Hope it's just a knock and he's back in time for Belgrade. 

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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

As usual when it comes to Hourihane (and Hendrick) when you challenge anyone as to what they bring to the team, the response is something vague about experience and playing in the premier League. 

I too am not concerned by his injury, but I'm more than willing to have my mind changed.

What will we be potentially missing with him not in Belgrade?


He was pivotal to Villa staying in the PL, which is a weird thing to skirt over given the context.

Well he was and he wasn't. He made crucial set piece contributions but that was offset by his lack of contribution in general play which will have contributed to them being so far down the table. Ultimately they dropped him and have been far better off this season without him.
 

Absolutely spot on. I hear how essential he was for villa to keep them up. (Grealish kept them up in reality)

His midfield contributions were one of the reasons villa got into the position they were in.

Saying that... I'm not a fan of hourihane but he has been scoring goals of late for Swansea. No one else is doing that.
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

As usual when it comes to Hourihane (and Hendrick) when you challenge anyone as to what they bring to the team, the response is something vague about experience and playing in the premier League. 

I too am not concerned by his injury, but I'm more than willing to have my mind changed.

What will we be potentially missing with him not in Belgrade?


He was pivotal to Villa staying in the PL, which is a weird thing to skirt over given the context.

Well he was and he wasn't. He made crucial set piece contributions but that was offset by his lack of contribution in general play which will have contributed to them being so far down the table. Ultimately they dropped him and have been far better off this season without him.
 

Absolutely spot on. I hear how essential he was for villa to keep them up. (Grealish kept them up in reality)

His midfield contributions were one of the reasons villa got into the position they were in.

Saying that... I'm not a fan of hourihane but he has been scoring goals of late for Swansea. No one else is doing that.


Eh, no they weren't. He didn't get a run of games until around Lockdown and that coincided with their form improving and subsequent survival. They were in free fall until he was reinstated to the team. Their win-loss record was better with than without.

Not all down to him but it's complete and utter nonsense to say Villa were in the relegation positions because of someone who wasn't starting.
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Starting a player who's over all contribution is more often than not quite poor in the hope he might score given his current form....

A Striker - I can somewhat understand that

A Midfielder - sorry, that's just not in any way justifed
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he brings a goal scoring threat and is a brilliant set piece taker while some of his weaknesses might not help us a whole amount in Serbia his replacements haven’t proved to be any better and don’t have his quality.

Where his loss will be felt more is against Luxembourg so for anyone to say he isn’t a loss hasn’t seen much of our attacking options of late.

Before he went off today he forced their keeper into a good save from a free kick.

And the sky commentators were praising his impact on Swansea since he has arrived 
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Hotlips - Hourhane has not been good for Villa. Can you please explain why they didn't play him for weeks and weeks this season and then agreed to let him drop down a league? 

Are you saying he was great for villa to keep them up and then he was so bad the next season that they didn't even see him as a squad player and let him go? 

What are you attributing to this massive dip in form? 
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Hotlips - Hourhane has not been good for Villa. Can you please explain why they didn't play him for weeks and weeks this season and then agreed to let him drop down a league? 

Are you saying he was great for villa to keep them up and then he was so bad the next season that they didn't even see him as a squad player and let him go? 

What are you attributing to this massive dip in form? 
That’s wrong smith has coming out and said he didn’t want to be a sub there is a difference 
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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

As usual when it comes to Hourihane (and Hendrick) when you challenge anyone as to what they bring to the team, the response is something vague about experience and playing in the premier League. 

I too am not concerned by his injury, but I'm more than willing to have my mind changed.

What will we be potentially missing with him not in Belgrade?

I think a lot of us have rose tinted glasses about the other midfielders. A lot of them are young and haven’t had a proper opportunity yet but remember when everyone was raving about Molumby not playing before the nations league games. He didn’t exactly light the place up when he got his chance. He’s only young though so he has lots of time and I’m not trying to overly critical. The point of this post is that the criticism of Hendricks and Hourihane may be warranted but who’s to the say that Cullen’ knight etc will improve things. I think it would be risky for Kenny to drop both Hendrick and Hourihane and play a whole new midfield in Serbia. It’s likely Hourihane is out so Hendrick will almost certainly start. I would love nothing more to be proven wrong and a midfield of Cullen and knight runs the show on Wednesday 
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Originally posted by Fruice Fruice wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Hotlips - Hourhane has not been good for Villa. Can you please explain why they didn't play him for weeks and weeks this season and then agreed to let him drop down a league? 

Are you saying he was great for villa to keep them up and then he was so bad the next season that they didn't even see him as a squad player and let him go? 

What are you attributing to this massive dip in form? 
That’s wrong smith has coming out and said he didn’t want to be a sub there is a difference 

He wasn't very likely going to say he's surplus to requirements and we're happy to be shot of him, is he?
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by Fruice Fruice wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Hotlips - Hourhane has not been good for Villa. Can you please explain why they didn't play him for weeks and weeks this season and then agreed to let him drop down a league? 

Are you saying he was great for villa to keep them up and then he was so bad the next season that they didn't even see him as a squad player and let him go? 

What are you attributing to this massive dip in form? 
That’s wrong smith has coming out and said he didn’t want to be a sub there is a difference 

He wasn't very likely going to say he's surplus to requirements and we're happy to be shot of him, is he?
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Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

As usual when it comes to Hourihane (and Hendrick) when you challenge anyone as to what they bring to the team, the response is something vague about experience and playing in the premier League. 

I too am not concerned by his injury, but I'm more than willing to have my mind changed.

What will we be potentially missing with him not in Belgrade?

I think a lot of us have rose tinted glasses about the other midfielders. A lot of them are young and haven’t had a proper opportunity yet but remember when everyone was raving about Molumby not playing before the nations league games. He didn’t exactly light the place up when he got his chance. He’s only young though so he has lots of time and I’m not trying to overly critical. The point of this post is that the criticism of Hendricks and Hourihane may be warranted but who’s to the say that Cullen’ knight etc will improve things. I think it would be risky for Kenny to drop both Hendrick and Hourihane and play a whole new midfield in Serbia. It’s likely Hourihane is out so Hendrick will almost certainly start. I would love nothing more to be proven wrong and a midfield of Cullen and knight runs the show on Wednesday 

I'm not proposing that certain other midfielders are going to be the solution. I'm proposing that it's fairly evident from a string of matches that the likes of Hourihane and Hendrick most definitely are not the solution.

Will Cullen, Knight, Molumby, Browne be the answer? Let's give it a whirl.

The way people go on, you'd swear the current midfield was actually any use. I genuinely don't get what people are afraid of. What's the worst that can happen? We'll continue not to win? We'll continue not to score goals?
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By the time Hourihane left Villa they were bringing a 19 year old kid off the bench ahead of him. They're never going to say anything negative about him publicly but their actions showed that he wasn't rated at all this season.
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