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Originally posted by Madferret Madferret wrote:

Originally posted by PanteirA PanteirA wrote:

How much is it costing Rovers to field a first division team? Why will you vote no Corkery? Im assuming its the cost of it


The First Division "Affiliation" fee is €10k PanteirA, and I believe the total per annum cost is short of €100k. But there are some economies of scale savings (admin, training, etc) and we are allowed utilise 4 players from the Premier squad (Incl GK) to play for the First Division side. This has meant that players such as Sheppard & Bayly have got regular game time they might not otherwise have got without there being any additional cost to the club for those 4 players.

I would think at some stage there will have to be some limit on the amount of Premier Division clubs that can field second teams because the additional expense incurred in travel & other costs for First Division clubs who don't have a Premier "parent" team will eventually become prohibitive. And I wouldn't like that to be at the expense of long standing clubs like Cobh & Finn Harps.
Some good points by you there. More trips to Cork for Finn Harps will have added expense they could do without
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KingswoodRover Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 2014 at 10:37am
Just wondering what the impact would be on crowds with 3 B teams in the league. Rovers B are attracting crowds in the low hundreds, cant see Cork or Pats getting any more. Being a fan of say Longford or Shels for instance the attraction of going to a home game when you have a "B" team as oppo is less than appealing and could be percieved as somewhat demeaning to your club. In saying that i hope the 2 clubs do partake in the 1st Div/B league next season can only be good for young players development........All Ireland B league anyone?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saint Tom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 2014 at 11:27am
Don't get relegated then. Any club worth their salt should be able to avoid it
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Na Firinne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 2014 at 11:34am
Originally posted by AnCearrbhach AnCearrbhach wrote:


There's an article in the Examiner today saying the FAI confirmed to
delegates at an EGM this week that City and Pats have registered
interest in fielding B teams in the First Division next year.


Any link to the article pal?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote saintjoey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 2014 at 12:25pm
I can see the small benefits but Think 100k could be used a lot better, for example roofing the stand behind the goal could be done for 100k? If we go with it im not gonna complain its their decision.

Could be used for a decent weekend away somewhere if no senior game same time
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote engpad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 2014 at 1:56pm
Would it be worth looking into affiliation with certain local clubs as clubs do in MLS? An easy way to loan players to that particular club to help gain experience
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If Bohs don't formally object to this like they did Rovers last season they are hypocrites, spivs and cowards.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kevincronin2000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 2014 at 3:38pm
Would rather see cork city have a munster senior league side than a loi first division side. What would happen if a premier division side got relegated who also had a first division side.

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After watching Pats last night they have enough problems with the first team without taking on a B team.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Saint Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jul 2014 at 3:12pm
Originally posted by smart man smart man wrote:

After watching Pats last night they have enough problems with the first team without taking on a B team.

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Bad night alright but don't see how this has any effect on a B team
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Originally posted by smart man smart man wrote:

After watching Pats last night they have enough problems with the first team without taking on a B team.


Eh what?
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Any short term affects to Pats? http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/nama-takes-businessman-to-court-over-468m-debt-30452257.html
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As a Longford fan, I really hope we get promoted this year, the thoughts of playing cork, rovers and pats 'b' sides isn't too appealing. It will definitely be the death knell of the first division if two of Longford /shels / Galway go up and be replaced by a depleted Athlone / ucd team. Would feel sorry for harps who are building a new stadium and Wexford who are making good strides trying to attract supporters to their games. Waterford and Cobh also have LOI history. Yes it would benefit player retention, but only among the bigger clubs who will supplement their youth teams with first division players to the detriment of other clubs. Not for me.
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So what is the alternative?
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

So what is the alternative?


The million pound question! I completely understand clubs not wanting B teams in the 1st division! Only serves to kill off any support clubs are trying to build and the 3 clubs will never have big supports, yes maybe they would have bigger than some as it is but it's never gonna get better! In short iv no idea what can be done
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Somethiing has to be done with the first division its not perfect but senior teams outside dublin cant get there act together, country teams should join up three or four teams in to one good club like galway eventuly did,every county should have a club near enough to them
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Originally posted by brissy brissy wrote:

Somethiing has to be done with the first division its not perfect but senior teams outside dublin cant get there act together, country teams should join up three or four teams in to one good club like galway eventuly did,every county should have a club near enough to them


Senior teams outside Dublin can't get their act together?

Have you looked at the league table recently? Top two from outside Dublin

3 of the four representatives in Europe this week were from outside Dublin

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What i mean is senior non league teams, they should join up, two many dublin teams struggling money wise,so teams outside dublin club together and have good set up,learn from limerick fc,kildare,wexford etc,ye fair play to the likes of cork and dundalk.sligo and srfc are best ran clubs in ireland (sorry thats what i meant senior non league to improve outside dublin 1st division)
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