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AnCearrbhach
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Posted: 26 Jun 2014 at 5:27pm |
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There's an article in the Examiner today saying the FAI confirmed to
delegates at an EGM this week that City and Pats have registered
interest in fielding B teams in the First Division next year.
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Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile.
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PanteirA
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This cant be good for a division that is f**ked already.
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corkery
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It would have to go to the fans at the next AGM. As a Cork shareholder, I'll be voting no.
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'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
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AnCearrbhach
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Will this definitely go to a FORAS vote. I actually think it could be worth the investment but would prefer if the MSL would let us in instead but thats not going to happen. Losing too many taleted players from the dominant 19s. |
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PanteirA
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How much is it costing Rovers to field a first division team? Why will you vote no Corkery? Im assuming its the cost of it
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Doyler1993
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Think this will benefit both the league and those teams in the long run. Providing the step up from u19 to senior level and also help in producing better and younger players who may be lost after u19 and giving them competitive senior football at little risk. Cost is high but if they get one or two players out of it that go to england for a nice amount of money it will be worth it.
England are trying to get this brought into their system so cant see why it would be a bad thing here providing the clubs have the money to do it.
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IT’S NO USE BOILING YOUR CABBAGE TWICE
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corkery
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I don't thing it helps the league at all. It's adding another mickey mouse club with no potential for a fan base into the league. To answer the above question, yes it will go to a vote. The Munster Senior League will not allow League Of Ireland clubs into the league because they think Cork would just win it every year. That's what happen in the youth leagues, Cork City ruined them leagues.
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'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
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AnCearrbhach
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To be fair a cork city b team will attract bigger crowds than most junior or intermediate clubs that could join. I'm not saying its the better option I do however believe it will benefit City whether or not it will help or hinder the league I don't know. |
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corkery
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To be fair, I'll be open to all sides on the issue and may consider changing my opinion. About a third of Cobh's support are Cork City fans. Looks like they'd be in big trouble.
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'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
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AnCearrbhach
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Likewise could vote either way. Funnily enough a cork derby even against the reserves may increase interest in Cobh |
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Saint Tom
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Will we all be handed glamour friendlies to cover the cost a la rovers? Wouldn't hold my breath
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My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham
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saintjoey
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Not sure Id be a fan of this, I know bucko wants it but personally I think its a waste of money
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Doyler1993
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Do you not think it would provide a better opportunity for young players to come through the set up and provide them with crucial senior experiance with little risk for the club as results will not be that important to a certain extent instead of them being released after u19. If one of these players becomes decent and an english club comes in for them the money will be made back quick enough.
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corkery
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We could have a very likely scenario where Rovers, Pats and Cork finish in the top three. That would mean the fourth team would go up and fifth would play sixth for the play off.
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'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
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PanteirA
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Saint Tom
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Rovers budgeted €80 k a year afaik
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My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham
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starryplough
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I wondered how long before the big bad Rovers got blamed for this. Try get a few fans, become an attraction and you might get selected some time in the future petal |
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Some Clubs Are Bigger Than Others
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Madferret
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The First Division "Affiliation" fee is €10k PanteirA, and I believe the total per annum cost is short of €100k. But there are some economies of scale savings (admin, training, etc) and we are allowed utilise 4 players from the Premier squad (Incl GK) to play for the First Division side. This has meant that players such as Sheppard & Bayly have got regular game time they might not otherwise have got without there being any additional cost to the club for those 4 players. I would think at some stage there will have to be some limit on the amount of Premier Division clubs that can field second teams because the additional expense incurred in travel & other costs for First Division clubs who don't have a Premier "parent" team will eventually become prohibitive. And I wouldn't like that to be at the expense of long standing clubs like Cobh & Finn Harps.
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